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Someone mad at me today for posting Trumps $5,000,000 challenge to Obama.lol

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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 11:39 PM
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Earlier today on a social media website I posted a link of Donald Trump's YouTube video challenge to Obama, where he offered to donate $5,000,000 to a charity of his choosing if he released his college admission records and passport records.
I got a reply for an unlikely source telling me not to be naive to POTUS lying and said I need to get a grip. The following was my reply, but keep in mind a couple sections, such as the first, we're in response to some comments made by others on my post. So if it doesn't seem related just skim past it, or read through.


I'm not sure that Obama was born in Hawaii, but feel the birth certificate was faked to hide something else. Even if he Was born in Hawaii. Why does he have a book that says "born in Kenya"? just too many questions unanswered. (See movie "Dreams of my Real father"). The BC .pdf the White House presented is an obvious and proven fake, anyone with minimal Adobe training can pick apart the layers. (It doesn't take 25yrs experience in IT like I have to tell). As for the college applications, I simply feel he lied saying he was a foreigner and may have had to provide a copy of his BC at that time and it wouldn't match up with the other. I actually don't care about any of that, I don't care if he was born in Timbuktu because there are far too many other unanswered questions. but to say he'd have the most transparent administration in history, yet spend $4million to hide something no other president in our history has felt the need to causes distrust.

Mr. Xxxx, with all due respect, you say "get a grip" that every President etc. has got to fib. Sure I give you that,, however, when you follow this administration and BO and many around him seem to be pathological liars then I'm sorry I can't trust him. (Fast & Furious). Even just today proof came out that he knew that Benghazi was a terrorist attack, yet sent people out in his admin to perpetrate the lie saying it had to do with an anti-Islam video, he himself stood before the U.N and stated the same. He'll never respond to Trump by the way.
If anyone is wondering why I've been so passionate against the B.O. Admin, well, it has to do with Obama care. /I see jobs being lost right now, not next year, because of the fears that companies have of Obama Care. MAJOR companies that employ millions nationwide are cutting the majority of their full time positions so they don't have to pay for employees insurance. They will only offer 29hrs a week part-time work. You can't support your families on meager wages, let alone when they will no longer offer insurance and be forced to the govt mandated insurance, or be fined. Not to mention that care will have to be rationed and our aging seniors will be put out to pasture. Having a parent fighting cancer right now is something that fuels MY passion. Right now my Mom can receive immediate care, with Obama Care she'd be forced to wait months, if not years, time she doesn't have.
There are so many More lies....
* The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.
* Minimum Wage will increase to $9.50/hr.
* Didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was Radical - Dreams of My Father – A radical Socialist.
* Would have the most transparent administration in History - Cato Institute
* Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes - YouTube
* My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - CNN
* Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity. -Obama Campaign Video
Enough of me listing them watch his lies in his own words:
www.youtube.com...
(would love your feedback on this). Much more than a few fibs. Trust me I'm far from naive!

####No mainstream media outlet is covering the biggest coverup of all time which is happening right now,"Plume-Gate". There's proof that Private emails, meeting transcripts and other key documents reveal that both the Obama White House and the NRC were well aware of how bad things were and are covering up the Fukushima ongoing disaster. Americans aren't being warned of the elevated radiation levels flooding the U.S. Our Seafood isn't being tested and we are now accepting shipments of beef directly fro Fukushima. If you haven't heard of this please educate yourselves.
www.naturalnews.com...
Search on YouTube where many people are covering this....

Other things that make me distrust the current admin:
List of Executive Orders:
1461days.blogspot.com...
(many signed to take control in far different ways than past POTUS) along with the billions of rounds of ammunition purchased by non-military branches of the service. Tell me what purpose this serves?

--- I have a feeling people would say they think I'd vote for Mitt because I really like him, but IF I vote for him it would simply be because I feel he is the lesser of two evils. The RNC showed their true colors when they eliminated Romney's biggest threat, when they went to the convention, and it wasn't B.O., but Ron Paul. What they did to him and his campaign should have been illegal. They knew that the majority of military families support him www.youtube.com...

So you're right when you say let who never spins a tale cast the first stone.

* If you were to make a list of Pro's and Con's, can you in your heart of hearts HONESTLY say you think the BO admin should be given the keys to this country and chance at repeating the last 4 years? I personally am not. By that time we will be in ruins. We don't have that far to fall.

PLEASE someone tell me your reasons for voting FOR him.




posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 12:23 AM
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He's not a delusional conspiracy therapist.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 12:40 AM
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I have no problem with what you said.

I did vote for him in 2008, of course, the MSM shied away from discussing his background.

Since then, I can see him in a totally different light and I don't like what I see. It sure as hell ain't "transparency".

But now, I don't care for his leadership or rather lack of, at all.

-High unemployment still......and no, I don't believe their numbers.
-Poor foreign policy leadership....
-More people on welfare.....how can that be if we are to believe their story that more people have jobs now.
-Doesn't care about national security....missed more than half of the security briefings [epic fail in my book]
-Libya......lies,lies & more lies
-Fast & Furious.....
-NDAA.....

The list just goes on & on.....


We'll probably get slammed for this but Obummer has made me feel this way.

I have ZERO confidence in him any more......he needs to go back to Chicago.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 12:57 AM
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At least you have rational reasons for your decision.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by PMNOrlando
Why does he have a book that says "born in Kenya"?


Care to name this book that says that?


The BC .pdf the White House presented is an obvious and proven fake


No, it is not actually. That silly claim has been debunked many times, only people who have no understanding of IT or scanners make that claim.


As for the college applications, I simply feel he lied saying he was a foreigner


Except that claim was just a April fool's joke
www.factcheck.org...


yet spend $4million to hide something no other president in our history has felt the need to


Care to show us all the previous Presidents records? Care to show proof Obama spent $4 million to hide private records?
www.factcheck.org...


Americans aren't being warned of the elevated radiation levels flooding the U.S


That is because they do not actually exist.

As to Obama's Executive Records, have a look here, www.presidency.ucsb.edu...

Obama has signed fewer than Bush. Have a look here www.snopes.com...

You really should not blindly believe the rubbish birthers post.
edit on 25-10-2012 by hellobruce because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 02:08 AM
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Factcheck is part of the annenberg thing which Bill Ayers is involved with. Sooooo it's going to be pro Obama.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 02:11 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Factcheck is part of the annenberg thing which Bill Ayers is involved with. Sooooo it's going to be pro Obama.


Care to refute the information instead of shooting the messenger? No, of course you cannot.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 03:12 AM
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Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by hellobruce
 


Factcheck is part of the annenberg thing which Bill Ayers is involved with. Sooooo it's going to be pro Obama.


Care to refute the information instead of shooting the messenger? No, of course you cannot.




The Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania The Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania developed FactCheck.org. Factcheck.org monitors the factual accuracy of what is said by major U.S. political players in the form of TV ads, debates, speeches, interviews and news releases.


n.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annenberg_Foundation


Yet the archives show that, along with Ms. Leff and Ms. Graham, Mr. Ayers was one of a working group of five who assembled the initial board in 1994. Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval.

The CAC's agenda flowed from Mr. Ayers's educational philosophy, which called for infusing students and their parents with a radical political commitment, and which downplayed achievement tests in favor of activism. In the mid-1960s, Mr. Ayers taught at a radical alternative school, and served as a community organizer in Cleveland's ghetto.


CAC --- The Chicago Annenberg Challenge

online.wsj.com...

Factcheck.org is part and parcel of the Annenberg Foundation. Factcheck was also chosen by the Obama campaign as the arbitrar of whether Obama's birth certificate, which purportedly proves he's a citizen of the United States, is authentic.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 04:36 AM
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Shill is the name people cry when they don't have a good argument..


Just because you are easily taken in..does not mean everyone is and also people who use common sense and rational thinking are not shills.

Obama is legit...deal with it.
edit on Thu Oct 25 2012 by DontTreadOnMe because: Reaffirming Our Desire For Productive Political Debate (REVISED)



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 04:51 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by hellobruce
 


Factcheck is part of the annenberg thing which Bill Ayers is involved with. Sooooo it's going to be pro Obama.


Factcheck is definitely pro-Obama. That doesn't mean the BC stuff is true. Obama is a terrible President and a huge failure, and has purposefully reneged on numerous campaign promises to serve his own agenda. Promises that would help the American people (such as his promise for cheap imported generic drugs) were thrown out the window in back room deals with special interest groups. His promise to limit lobbying is a joke. He has been the King of serving special interest groups.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 04:51 AM
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OP you're complaining about the Maitre D' at the Banquet of Democracy when in fact the problem is the food the premises and the other clientele'.

Thank Shiva for Obama...if anyone wasn't convinced democracy isnt just a puppet show, that dud(e) proved it.

OP must also forgive those that see the constant search from proof he's not American as a bit strange given Mccain was born in Panama and Romney is virtually a Mexican.

Why doesnt Donald Trump expose some policy issues instead of showing himself up as the Scottish born failure he really is.

Why are you allowing a Scot to dictate your thoughts on a possible fellow Amercian??

edit on 25-10-2012 by Jukiodone because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by kerazeesicko
reply to post by PMNOrlando
 


Shill is the name people cry when they don't have a good argument..


Just because you are easily taken in..does not mean everyone is and also people who use common sense and rational thinking are not shills.

Obama is legit...deal with it.


lololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololo lololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol I have to agree with you there! You got me. Obama is Legit! A Legitimate FAILURE! The past 4 years have shown what a rookie Senator can do with very little political experience. Give me Condi Rice or Colon Powell on the ballot and I'd vote for them in a heart beat. Personally I feel anyone that wants to run for POTUS should have to have served a minimum of 4 years in any branch of the armed services. If they have the power to send our men and women off to war, they should at least be somewhat personally familiar with our armed services.
You say I don't have an argument lol I think I provide more supporting information than most. Your definition of "legit" doesn't equal successful. Unless you are successfully sitting on your butt at home collecting entitlements that the rest of us work hard for, talking on one of your many Obama phones. BO = Liar, Deal With It!



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by PMNOrlando
BO = Liar, Deal With It!


Obama is the legal President, and will probably be re-elected. So you have to Deal With That!



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 08:59 AM
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I still want to know how Obama has a Connecticut Social Security number.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 09:05 AM
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Pervius,
Every single birther theory and claim has been thoroughly debunked here at ATS over the years.

This includes the lie about the prsident spending 2 million, now 4 million to "seal" records and it also includes the Connecticut SS number theory.

All you have to do is look.


 
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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 09:05 AM
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SSA logo: link to Social Security Online home
Social Security Numbers
The SSN Numbering Scheme


Number Has Three Parts

The nine-digit SSN is composed of three parts:

The first set of three digits is called the Area Number
The second set of two digits is called the Group Number
The final set of four digits is the Serial Number

Area Number

The Area Number is assigned by the geographical region. Prior to 1972, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the State in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could apply for their card in any Social Security office. Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant's mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, either prior to 1972 or since.

Generally, numbers were assigned beginning in the northeast and moving westward. So people on the east coast have the lowest numbers and those on the west coast have the highest numbers.

Note: One should not make too much of the "geographical code." It is not meant to be any kind of useable geographical information. The numbering scheme was designed in 1936 (before computers) to make it easier for SSA to store the applications in our files in Baltimore since the files were organized by regions as well as alphabetically. It was really just a bookkeeping device for our own internal use and was never intended to be anything more than that.


LINK



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 09:10 AM
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I like all your fact-check stuff, but the question is..... "Why not Release everything?"

If I hire someone for a position with any kind of security clearance, I want to see their transcripts, birth certificate, driving record, credit report, insurance report, and talk to a few of their references and previous employers. If they have any kind of issue with that, then they aren't getting the job.

I voted for Obama in 2008 also, and I did so knowing that he was a bit of an unknown. His first 2 years were a total bust, but his last 2 years he has matured as a leader. I won't vote for him again, because I don't feel he is a strong enough leader, and I don't like the fact that he obviously faked the birth certificate and seems to have something to hide. If he just came out with the truth, it probably wouldn't hurt him much, but all the deception has turned me off. I hate being played for a fool. That BC was a joke. Even Bush released his less than stellar college transcripts, why wouldn't Obama?



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by darkhorserider
I like all your fact-check stuff, but the question is..... "Why not Release everything?"


The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Because there's no requirement to. If there's an issue, it's with the party who was fine with putting a candidate forward without thorough vetting, or with the media who have given him a pass since he burst on the scene with the keynote address at the convention in 2004.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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True. But its the voters doing the hiring, and the voters asking for the information, not the party or the press.

The whole process has been skewed to the point that our media is in charge of the election. They can idolize or demonize a candidate without any basis in fact, and the people jumping up and down demanding answers are just left out in the cold. The party leadership caters to the press, the press chooses the protagonist and antagonist, and they manipulate the roles back and forth to always provide good fodder and drama for their show.

It should be required if the people ask for it, but that gets glazed over with a bunch of nonsense that doesn't really matter.



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