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Which Sitchin book is a good Representative




Topic started on 19-10-2004 @ 09:13 AM by Nygdan


of his work in general?

Which book details his method the best, and are they the same book?

I am considering picking up one of his books, I've gotten curious as to precisely how he goes about doing his work, plus it seems like, if nothing else, it should be entertaining.

Anyone familiar with sitchin have any recommendations? Thoughts? Comments? Cautions?



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reply posted on 19-10-2004 @ 09:24 AM by thirddensity


I'd start with Divine Encounters. It sums up a lot of what his theories are.

Definatley a good place to start.



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reply posted on 19-10-2004 @ 09:45 AM by Nygdan


Thanks for the suggestion. Anyone else have any recommendations? I'm trying to get a wide range of opinions on this.

Does Divine Encounters go into the methodology? I am thinking in particular about the akkadian tablet translations. Does sitchin read cunieform? Or is he working directly off translations?



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reply posted on 19-10-2004 @ 10:04 AM by thirddensity


I believe that he actually reads it. As a note opf caution, there is a gentleman named Michael S. Heiser www.michaelsheiser.com... that states his interpretation is wrong. It's worth reading what he has to say so you can have a balanced viewpoint.

I personally enjoy his writings and they hold a ring of truth to me.

If you want a basic overview of him try this link.

www.halexandria.org...

Continue to search for truth and deny ignorance.



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reply posted on 19-10-2004 @ 10:11 AM by blanketgirl


To put my opinion in perspective, it's been about 8 years since I've picked any of them up... But at that time I really like the one "the twelfth planet"

I felt it gave a good general idea of what he was going to talk about in the other books- sort of like a foundation on which he lies his other ideas.

I think it is a good place to start because he really does write in series form- I felt you almost needed the earlier books sometimes to understand the depth of what he was getting at- they are also good to look back through again as you are reading later books to get more out of them.

I greatly enjoyed him- good choice!

I found this website which talks a slight bit about a couple of his books and gives a little background for you as well as links to more about a couple topics. I know he read sumerian so akkadian wouldn't surprise me in the least.
www.crystalinks.com...


Originally posted by Nygdan
Thanks for the suggestion. Anyone else have any recommendations? I'm trying to get a wide range of opinions on this.

Does Divine Encounters go into the methodology? I am thinking in particular about the akkadian tablet translations. Does sitchin read cunieform? Or is he working directly off translations?



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reply posted on 19-10-2004 @ 10:39 AM by Off_The_Street


Nygdan, I have read only two of Sitchin's books, 12th Planet and (at the request of a friend) Genesis Revisited.

12th Planet was brilliantly debunked by Rob Hafernik (www.geocities.com...).

A blurb about Sitchin says that:

"Zecharia Sitchin was born in Russia and raised in Palestine, where he acquired a profound knowledge of modern and ancient Hebrew, other Semitic and European languages, the Old Testament, and the history and archeology of the Near East. He is one of the few scholars who is able to read and understand Sumerian. Sitchin attended and graduated from the University of London, majoring in economic history. A leading journalist and editor in Israel for many years, he now lives and writes in New York. His books have been widely translated, converted to Braille for the blind, and featured on radio and television."

Sitchin is not a scholar; he never studied Sumerian in a university. His undergraduate degree is in economic history and he has, as near as I can tell, no academic credentials whatsoever. His knowledge appears to be all self-taught; while this is not automatically a bad thing, it certainly doesn't make him a "scholar".

Nor is he one of the "few who is able to read and understand Sumerian"; there are many real scholars out there who teach in Universities, prepare submissions for scholarly journals, develop detailed Sumerian and Akkadian dictionaries and grammars, etc. Most if not all of them consider Sitchin to be a fraud. These include people like Ortiz de Montellano, Jagersma and de Maaijer, Heise, etc.

Another self-description of Sitchin, copied by van de Bogart (www.earthportals.com...), says:

"These astounding statements are made possible by the Sumerian cuneiform deciphering skills of Zecharia Sitchin, a linguist in command of many ancient languages who has set the scientific world on its ear with his astounding interpretations of ancient writings."

Sitchin is not a linguist but a hobbyist, and the only scientific people who are "on their ear" are those who have fallen over laughing at him.

I think the best desctiption of Sitchin, with which I concur heartily, comes from Hafernik:

"Clearly, Sitchin is a smart man. He weaves a complicated tale from the bits and pieces of evidence that survive from ancient Sumeria to the present day. Just as clearly, Sitchin is capable of academic transgressions (fracturing quotes, ignoring dissenting facts), theft of intellectual property (those tables he copied) and flights of intellectual fancy (the whole book, really). Worst of all, he is almost utterly innocent of astronomy and other assorted fields of modern science."

"He nevertheless paints a picture that is very attractive. One wants to believe it, for it explains so many things. Intellectual honesty, however, prevents anyone with common sense, access to archeological and astronomical data and the ability to read from taking his book seriously. In the end, he's just another nut making a living selling books that treat folks to a tale they want to believe in."



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reply posted on 19-10-2004 @ 11:00 AM by Nygdan


quote]Sitchin is not a linguist but a hobbyist,


See, it seems like it keeps getting misrepresented, becuase people keep saying he can read cuneiform, but he has no formal training in it, and the majority of cuneiform scholars disagree with his readings. I get the feeling that he's something like what used to be called a 'diletante' or something like that. Anyway, I am going into this expecting to be more entertained than anything else.

Often, I'll read something from Fortean Times, even tho I disagree with what might be presented entirely, just because its so damned entertaining.

Sort of like reading a comic book at times in all honesty.

Plus, sitchin comes up so much, especially in this forum, that I think I'd be doing myself an injustice in not reading it. Thanks for the heads up tho, I have a feeling I'll be visiting some of those sites.

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However I expect it to not be a complete waste of time, like most of what comes out of crystal links (no offense intended to the poster who noted them)


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reply posted on 19-10-2004 @ 11:14 AM by Byrd


Oh, do read Sitchin, if only for the hilarity aspect. I love the way he sets up an assumption and then goes on to treat it as fact.

And yes, that's correct -- he's a dilletante, but the problem is that he's a dilletante with a vison and an agenda. Well, that, and he's a lousy researcher and a poor scholar and a very inept historian (Gee, Byrd... biased against him after having debunked his nonsense frequently over the past 5 years? Why, whatever gave you THAT idea?)



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reply posted on 19-10-2004 @ 02:09 PM by Off_The_Street


Gee, byrd, why don't you get off the fence and tell us what you really feel about old Zecheriah Stich 'em?

Nygden, Sitchin is harmless, as long as you don't take him too seriously. when it comes to reading stuff like that, I put him right above people like Nancy Lieder, along with Erich von Daniken and Immanuel Velikovsky.

But yes, he's kind of fun.



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