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Israel or Palestine . Which side would you support?

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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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Would you support Israel or Palestine ? And why? Support your answer.

Some key info you can throw into your discussion:

- There was never really a state called Palestine.
- The west bank never really belonged to anyone. It was occupied by the Jordanians while they were trying to kill the new Israelis.
- Every fourth Israeli is an Arab with full rights.
- The Palestinian race deserve a right to their own country with their own borders.
- Hamas firing rockets at Israel, Israel answering with bigger attacks.

These were some key points to throw into your discussion.

Let the war begin!
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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:57 AM
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Israel.

- They were attacked 5 times from a league of nations, and won.
- Arab countries claim they care so much about Palestinians, but what about Iraq taking all Kurdish land in North?
- Israeli only launches retalatory attacks.



Israel is guilty of a lot of war crimes against Farmers, Flotilla's, etc etc. If I HAD to choose a side, I'd say Israel is right.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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if you look at history of it..

the decision is already made..





posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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Israel 100%. The mis-named "palestinians" have a homeland. Trans-Jordan(now just Jordan) was specifically formed to be the homeland of the non-Jews in that area. The area now owned by Israel was an unproductive wasteland before the Jews returning from 2,000 years of forced exile. The arabs started moving there after the Jews began transforming the land. The arabs/muslms do not even support their own as directed by the pillars of islam. They refuse to accept the so called refugees and force them to live in those hellish camps. The so called refugees are only displaced because they left(of their own freewill) prior to the combined arab attacks in 1948.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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I'll answer your question if promise nothing bad is gonna happen to me...



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 11:18 AM
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I would support israel, my tax money already is. Plus i love the ideas of genocide and tyranny.

Israel all the way!

Seriously though, fck israel.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 11:39 AM
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palestine for me

everyone can see what isreal is doing to these poor people. and when someone speaks out they get labelled an anti-semite.

i dont like that.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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I support neither but would support both if they stopped acting like children in a sandbox. I'm just more vocal against Israel as their actions are egregious and sold as OK. They aren't.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 12:41 PM
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kurds are not arabs or semites


The Kurdish people, or Kurds (Kurdish: کورد, Kurd), are an Iranic people[16][17][18][19][20][21][22] native to West Asia, mostly inhabiting a region known as Kurdistan, which includes adjacent parts of Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey. They speak the Kurdish language, which is a member of the Iranian branch of Indo-European languages.[23] The Kurds number about 30 million, the majority living in West Asia, with significant Kurdish diaspora communities in the cities of western Turkey, in Armenia, Georgia, Israel, Azerbaijan, Russia, Lebanon and, in recent decades, some European countries and the United States. The Kurds are an indigenous[24] ethnic minority in the countries of the Kurdistan region, although they have enjoyed partial autonomy in Iraqi Kurdistan since 1991. An irredentist movement pushes for the creation of a Kurdish nation state.
en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by FeelingPure
 

as an individual of Sephardi ancestry it behooves me to point out that a proper jew is against israel because the jews are not supposed to have a nation of their own until Messiah comes.
israel is an apartheid secular state created by crypto-nazis masquerading as jews, so as to spread more hate against jews, when it's zionists that should be the target
"if you can't beat them, join them, and destroy from within"

sort of like the citizens of the US [formerly The Citizens of the States United] deceptively calling themselves "Americans"



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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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I support both who truly support PEACE.

I have lots of friends from Israel and Palestine.

But I surely don't support the murderous Zionist regime in Israel.




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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 12:48 PM
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when will people realize that it's not about taking sides... peace can only be established through tolerance and a respect for other cultures...

all this hate has been simmering away for so long now that it is inevitable that it will boil over

it's apparent all over the globe

it may not be this century or even the next but eventually the human race will destroy itself and hate will be the cause

it saddens me

so much for evolution....



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 01:19 PM
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how about neither? the middle east would be alot nicer if it was just one even piece of glass, if you catch my drift.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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Nuff said !!!





BTW I DO NOT support any war nor do I don't support killing for land that wasn't yours to start with ( same way I feel about the US killing for its lands)

breaking news
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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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It is despicable seeing today the same iron boot that trampled on the "poor" 6 million jews (look up how many times the zionists preach that specific number from the late 1800s to the early mid 1900s), is now the same boot that the jews leadership is wearing to trample on not only immigrants but also the arab inhabitants of Israel.

I will only slightly choose a side and that would be palestine, because I don't see the jews having learned a single thing from their own history.

But in all honesty, the two societies should be told to learn in peace together. Extremists religious followers and preacher prosecuted for crimes against humanity and the country spend the next 100 years getting their act together, for I take it that is how long they are behind in social development seen in relation to the western world.

Well... if you boil it down, we have to eliminate religion, since that is without the shred of doubt the sole reason for wars and hardship in the middle east. (that includes "western" religions as well.... christianity is equally as #ed.)



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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Who in their right mind would ever support Palestine as long as Hamas and Hezbollah along with Iran and the Muslim brotherhood who are extremist continue to push to destroy Israel and murder innocent Jews and innocent Christians and innocent Muslims by being brainwashed to commit suicide and blow themselves up along with anyone in their way.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Israel Zangwill (1864-1926) Quote “a land without a people for a people without land”. (Little did him and his colleagues in the Zionist leadership realise that there were almost 410,000 Palestinians (Muslim and Christian) Living in Palestine around the early 1890's.


Palestinians for sure.


3/2/1919

One of the proposals that was presented to the peace conference

II.There shall be for ever the fullest freedom of religious worship for all creeds in Palestine There shall be no discrimination among the inhabitants with regard to citizenship and civil rights, on the grounds of religion, or of race


It speaks for itself.
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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 05:24 PM
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Balfour declaration:




Havaara agreement:



CERTIFICATE

The Trust and Transfer Office "Haavara" Ltd. places at the disposal of the Banks in Palestine amounts in Reichmarks which have been put at its disposal by the Jewish immigrants from Germany. The Banks avail themselves of these amounts in Reichmarks in order to make payments on behalf of Palestinian merchants for goods imported by them from Germany. The merchants pay in the value of the goods to the Banks and the "Haavara" Ltd. pays the countervalue to the Jewish immigrants from Germany. To the same extent that local merchants will make use of this arrangement, the import of German goods will serve to withdraw Jewish capital from Germany.

The Trust and Transfer Office,
HAAVARA, LTD.



"The Jewish people as a whole will be its own Messiah. It will attain world domination by the dissolution of other races...and by the establishment of a world republic in which everywhere the Jews will exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this New World Order the Children of Israel...will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition..." (Karl Marx in a letter to Baruch Levy, quoted in Review de Paris, June 1, 1928, p. 574)
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Protocols of Zion, apparently one of the biggest HOAX in human history. Well what makes me wonder is why every single word of it has come true with the Zionists pulling strings?


Protocols:

• Place our agents and helpers everywhere
• Take control of the media and use it in propaganda for our plans
• Start fights between different races, classes and religions
• Use bribery, threats and blackmail to get our way
• Use Freemasonic Lodges to attract potential public officials
• Appeal to successful people’s egos
• Appoint puppet leaders who can be controlled by blackmail
• Replace royal rule with socialist rule, then communism, then despotism
• Abolish all rights and freedoms, except the right of force by us
• Sacrifice people (including Jews sometimes) when necessary
• Eliminate religion; replace it with science and materialism
• Control the education system to spread deception and destroy intellect
• Rewrite history to our benefit
• Create entertaining distractions
• Corrupt minds with filth and perversion
• Encourage people to spy on one another
• Keep the masses in poverty and perpetual labor
• Take possession of all wealth, property and (especially) gold
• Use gold to manipulate the markets, cause depressions etc.
• Introduce a progressive tax on wealth
• Replace sound investment with speculation
• Make long-term interest-bearing loans to governments
• Give bad advice to governments and everyone else
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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by CALGARIAN
Israel.

- They were attacked 5 times from a league of nations, and won.


go back further in history.



- Arab countries claim they care so much about Palestinians, but what about Iraq taking all Kurdish land in North?


Israel act as if they care also yet they will never give Palestinians citizenship in modernday Israel.


- Israeli only launches retalatory attacks.


After the Palestinian genocide.


Israel is guilty of a lot of war crimes against Farmers, Flotilla's, etc etc. If I HAD to choose a side, I'd say Israel is right.


Palestinians...



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 07:58 AM
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The update to your thread title is very misleading and could be considered an outright lie as most the people in this thread support Palestine or choose to be mutual until both sides agree to sit down and play nice.

You say that it was 5-0 for Israel but within the first 5 posts there are some whom support Palestine so yes your title update is an outright deceitful lie.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 08:10 PM
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x2

this crap thread didnt get you the results you hoped for.





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