reply to post by hoghead cheese
You ask some question that really doesn't have an answer my Friend.
The problem is, there wasn't a Biblical figure affixed to the Spawn of the Fallen that I am aware of.
The Book of Enoch
does suggest some of the activities these Nephilim partook in though.
1. And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile
themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2. And they
became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3. Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no
longer sustain them, 4. the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and
fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. 6. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.
1. And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being
wrought upon the earth. 2. And they said one to another: 'The earth made †without inhabitant cries the voice of their crying† up to the gates of
heaven. 3 ⌈⌈And now to you, the holy ones of heaven⌉⌉, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause before the Most High.".'
4. And they said to the Lord of the ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, 〈and God of the ages〉, the throne of Thy glory (standeth)
unto all the generations of the ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! 5. Thou hast made all things, and power over all
things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. 6. Thou seest what
Azâzêl hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which men were
striving to learn: 7. And Semjâzâ, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. 8. And they have gone to the daughters of
men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. 9. And the women have borne
giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. 10. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are
crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are
wrought on the earth. 11. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost
not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.'
I am sure there are other examples that can be found in various texts outside of the Bible. Both the Koran and the Torah, may have further details in
regards to this, but I have not studied these texts to date.
The Book of Enoch does suggest 200 entities made up the Fallen, and offers some names of the "Leaders". Outside of that, there isn't much,
As for the flood, in my own personal view, we are talking about a localized event. Certainly the terms we see in the Genesis Account, give us the
impression of a horrific event.
But I think the implications where rather generalized in Locale. This event was specific and had a purpose. To eliminate the Spawn of the Fallen. As
noted earlier, some did survive, but the majority where wiped out, along with other "creatures" of the Fallen.
There are many Threads about the Flood, and when and where in ATS and a search can take you to these for review. These points do not need to be
I just believe that everything known to the people involved in this event was washed away. The terms brought forth echo this clearly, but what
happened in areas outside of the area in which Noah and his Family lived is very debatable. Africa has little record of Flood Events, and no evidence
of such an occurrence. Elsewhere, around the globe, many cultures do express lore and tales of a great flood, and it is clear they seem to be
expressing the same event. Whether this common theme was spread around the globe during the disbursement of mankind into separate groups based on
Languages during the the Days of Nimrod, and his tower of Babel, is another subject.
Despite the views of some here, Atlantis, the Antediluvian World
, by Ignatius Donnelly does
offer a fine collection of the lore revolving around the flood from around the globe.See Deluge tales
(Note: Despite the outcries of many, Donnelly did not make up thes tales)