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But I already have comfort and there are no answers I am seeking that I do not already know.
I really don't think it's supposed to be a last resort. And honestly, if you ARE doing it as a last resort, I don't think it's love of the lord that drives you, but a last desperate need for salvation. You're doing it for yourself. You're doing it out of fear of mortality, not out of commitment to any higher power. And last but not least: "I will try to believe..." Do or do not. There is no trying to believe. I think that alone would render it null and void. Just saying.
How in the ....... No wait......... WT........... I agree !
Originally posted by jonnywhite
reply to post by grayeagle
If you genuinely ask these questions, how is that evil? If asking these questions means you're condemned to hell then there's no freedom in heaven, is there? What freedom?
Free will means little if there're too many rules and only two roads: hell and heaven.
"I confess I stopped being a christian probably 10 years ago almost".
People don't lose faith. They never had faith to begin with. People don't stop being Christian. They never were Christian to begin with. A true conversion is never forgotten or put away. A lot of people are not meant to be truly converted to Christianity. Jesus said that "straight is the gate and narrow is the way and few there be that find it"
That narrow straight way is Jesus of Nazareth for there is no other name under heaven by which one can be saved.
But as long as there is life, there is hope I guess. I'm just thankful that I'm one of those few. I am blessed above many. Who so ever will.
Originally posted by grayeagle
reply to post by guitarplayer
One of my concerns is if we are not to be just observers, withholding help when we know how to do good, but to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick, is God holding us to a higher standard then himself? I am talking about the here and now. If nothing escapes his notice, the bird that falls to earth, then how does he stand by and watch the children I have seen abused. I know many will say that it is man's sin that is causing it. I agree it is man's fault however that doesn't answer my question. Could you stand by while a little child is raped. Then my painful question is how can God? Pain and sorrow are things I experience in immediacy. I have trouble denying their immediate consequences. To take that position that pain and suffering are all good because it strengthens us and makes us better people allows us to dismiss the pain and suffering of others as inevitable and to be desired. Could you stand next to that small child and tell them to rejoice in their pain and suffering because it will make them better people? There has been a whole lot of pain and suffering in this world and I don't see any positive results. I don't see the world or people getting better. If we see evolution as the effort to better survive then why don't we see it not just change the physical but change the more important behavior. If we look around at human behavior it appears to me that it has gotten worse. We have less assurance of our survival every day. I ask these question with all sincerity! I am not ashamed to ask them nor do I think that I blaspheme God because I ask them! Obviously it is important to me!
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Egyptia
I have a hard time believing this guy is or ever has been a Pastor.
edit on 25-10-2012 by randyvs because: (no reason given)