Originally posted by GafferUK1981
Wow you really are a delusional fella, you do realise that the OP is losing his faith. He is finally realising the truth that there is no good. What
kind of people would us atheists be if we did not provide support for somebody who may break free from the shackles of religion and have the desire to
I know you are certain that there is a god but without proof you simply have blind faith. There is no more likely a god than there is an Easter
You may try condescend us atheists but as we are the ones who actively seek the truth rather than believe in an ancient madness we are the ones who
should be condescending towards you.
You speak so highly of religion but what good has religion really done for mankind. An atheist wouldn't fly a plane into a building, only a
brainwashed idiot would do that.
Such arrogance born out of ignorances.
You atheists often use the question of God's existence to confuse and con others to your kind's brand of insane stupidity, as if your kind alone
know the truth, when our science which you hold dear is still at infant stage, with very much more unknown, unanswered, and yet to discover.
Religion is not just all about God's existence. He wouldn't have cared what infants think. If He wanted to, we would have statues and pictures of
Him on every wall. But He forbade it.
What is MOST CRITICAL is that mankind FOLLOW His moral and ethical guides using our gift of free will to progress and evolve. It was His teachings He
taught, as well as spread by His divine teachers sent over time to help us. This is what religion is and had done for mankind.
Would apes or tigers know such laws as 'Thou shalt not kill', or 'Thous shalt not steal' ? They don't. They were not created for civilisation.
I know some atheists would argue that it was simply a progression of existing together that such laws came into being 'natuarally' in order to
co-exist. That's insane if not utter stupidity. Crockoches is touted as the longest living specimen on Earth. Do they build cities and land on the
moon? Fools claim we descended from monkeys as a distinct branch, but there were many branches, hundred of simian class, yet why were we the only ones
who progress out of that hundreds, while apes who lived together as long as we have cannot even build a shelter to protect themselves from the
Those moral and ethical guidelines of mainstream religions did not simply grew out of nothing. It came from a higher intelligence, and it had led to
our progress and evolution of today, and will to our future.
Where do atheists get their sense of morality and ethics from? They certainly did not get it just by being born, but through being taught by parents,
schools, friends, environments and experiences - learning from others whom had similarly taught since the dawn of civilisation.
Although our civilisation's history had not been illustrious, as evident by conflicts, disasters and wars, it was more often a result of mankind, or
the elites of mankind that had been tampering with the moral and ethical guides taught, straying from it, fooling mankind and resulted in suffering
Humans are flawed anyway, we make mistakes, but we do have the capacity to reason and logic, to determine faults and correct them to progress and
evolves, as evident by our survival till today.
However, some will argue that those guidelines seemed draconian. It was never meant to be. It can be amended to progress and evolve over time, as
mankind had grown and evolve from the caves and jungles, without losing its purpose and essence. The Fundamentalist Jews, Christians and Muslims made
the mistake of not evolving, but had attempted to make those guidelines even more draconian, dogmatic and robotic.
One example is the Sabbath. The jewish rabbis spent decades arguing and deciding just over what constitutes work and non-work for the Sabbath,
confusing themselves and enforcing robotic modes into humanity. The moral and ethical guideline is very simple, as our Messiah had taught - keep it
It is the heart and essense of what the sabbath was for, and not what we can do or not do enforced and imposed. No point a man follows a law on the
Sabbath, but in his heart bears hatred for his neighbour or covetness for his neighbour's wife.
I can go on and on over more such dogmatic laws that man created.
Religion is not supposed to be tyranny, and neither is mankind supposed to be ruled by tyranny. The last king anointed had been Saul, and after that,
there were none, for authoritarian rule by human had proven a disaster even by the best of men.
Henceforth, after Saul, men was to be governed through an assembly, to share, discuss, debate and find solutions to progress and evolve. Our Messiah
and prophet Muhammad left no heir nor appointed anyone, intentionally.