Originally posted by Mads1987
Originally posted by DelayedChristmas
Originally posted by Mads1987
reply to post by SpiritofEnoch
I am not familiar with the experience you are describing - but since I am an atheist, I will most likely dismiss your claim of having contact with a
supernatural entity as some sort of misconception, until I am presented with quantifiable evidence.
But I can't help but wonder how you know it's the holy spirit?
I am glad that this motivates you to treat others with compassion. Would you by any chance share some of these things that the Spirit tells you? I am
curious. I am curious.
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You know who can give you the best answer? Father.
To me, it seems like your genuinely interested, but I can't tell for sure because I can't look at your heart.
Ask with a pure heart. It's all about a personal relationship, that is all the evidence you will ever need. The words of others, in my opinion, can
only go so far.
I appreciate your suggestion, since I am sure it comes from a good place.
But since there are so many different religions to choose from, and their philosophies and reasoning, to me, are equally depended on faith. I
personally can't justify picking one over the other.
I am genuinely interested, but more about what makes you believe personally.
I have been lied to before, by people who weren't aware that they were telling a lie and actually thought they were doing something good. I imagine
you can recognize this from your own encounters with people of different faith or even from education. Some people believe they were a bunny-rabbit in
their past life, some that they can cure Aids through pedophilia, some that Columbus discovered America, some that the pyramids were build by Aliens,
and others that they can heal by touch. All on faith - sometimes good, sometimes harmless and sometimes horrifying.
And as I started out by saying, I think it's hard to accept one and not the other when they all depend equally on faith.
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To be honest, I think the essence of Christianity is the closest to what is. All religions try to explain the existential questions of life. However,
just like mankind is imperfect, so will their views on God be; but the process of learning is an eternal process. I don't like to place myself under a
subjective box, so i like to mix and match concepts that I think are essential, like Jesus Christ is Lord, begotten Son of God, came in the flesh from
God from Christianity, love conquering all, and the core concept of insight and non-attachment of scriptures that the Zen Buddhists teach ... Have you
ever read the book Life of Pi?
Well, how did I personally come to believe?
I was born into the religion of Christianity, but like most young children that are born into the church, I just went to church for the social aspect.
I listened to the sermons but I never really gave much thought into it, but it still laid the foundation of my faith.
My mother passed away from breast cancer when I was eight. I didn't even know that she was so ill and I didn't think twice when I saw my mom so ill. I
remember taking her wig off and I was laughing, asking her what happened to her hair. She obviously lost her hair from the chemo but I had no idea
what was going on.
After my mom died, I remember cursing Father. I remember yelling something around the lines of, "How could You do this? She was my mom and I am still
young. If You exist, You are so unfair. Everyone else has their moms around them but why did you take mine? I hate You!" Looking back, it was ironic
that I was speaking to Him as if He existed even though I said that He didn't exist. I think it really pained Father' to see and hear me say that, but
of course He knew that was going to happen. Father turned my anger into passion, as my former pastor told me, trying to paint a prettier picture. I do
think she was onto something though.
I remember that I still didn't FULLY believe, I had that proverbial mustard seed of faith. Whenever I went to retreats, again, mainly for the social
aspect, I remember just crying about my mom because I still could not get over this event when we started praising through singing. I still miss her
dearly and I would love to see her one more time, but I know she's in Heaven where she isn't suffering anymore.
It look a lot more "ups and downs" for my faith today, and there's plenty of bumps on the path ahead, but I know this is a refining process.
Father has a relationship with all. I think He "reveals" Himself when we are ready.
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