Music is an Instrument of Terror

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posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 02:22 PM
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So TIRED of this. Other countries have their rules and their ways for reasons. REASONS.
Who are we to tell other countries what they should and should not do?
THIS is one of the reasons WHY we have so much stupid war and bloodshed.

If you live there and have issue, take it up.
If you do NOT live there and have issue, OH WELL.
but I am SO STINKING TIRED of seeing other countries bashing other countries for not doing what the other country deems 'correct'. It IS correct - for that other country.

/rant




posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by FreedomCommander
Which is more powerful, A drawing of art or a sound of art?

The sound is always more powerful. Yes it has changed countries. It has motivated people to do the impossible.

But who plays it, is very important. If the person was someone that only wish for despair in any form ( sorry if this sounds like I'm dishing it out on rock stars, rap stars and the such) then people will be not be very motivated or will feel very down.

If it was from someone let's say Beethoven, people will making leaps and bounds in everything (Listened to his work at my work and I feel a whole lot better than listening to a heavy metal artist in any shape or form)

Gaza is a war zone that the people of Gaza do not want. A radio talk show host went there and aired there. He said they were the nicest people ever.

The people of Gaza are not terrorist, the real terrorist is Israel and all those who want power in any shape or form such as controlling people.


The people of Gaza aren't terrorists. But terrorists do reside there. The people of Israel aren't terrorists either but terrorists reside there. Trust me on this one all your average Gazan and average Israeli want is peace to go about providing for the family and enjoying the kids.
I as a soldier was entertained by palastinians and our kids are now firm friends, We entertained them in return, and our kids are still firm friends, even after the ex wifes cooking !
Until both countries ( yes I consider Palastine a country) kick out the extremists there will be no peace. Let's find an island where we can all send our extremists and just let them fight it out ? No kids allowed.
Peace



posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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I don't like this at all. People should be allowed access to real musical instruments. But as long as people have two sticks and a rubber band they can still make music and sing along.

Here's a few videos of a terrorist making some homemade weapons of mass destruction.










There are lots of great musicians that use homemade instruments




posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by sarra1833
So TIRED of this. Other countries have their rules and their ways for reasons. REASONS.
Who are we to tell other countries what they should and should not do?
THIS is one of the reasons WHY we have so much stupid war and bloodshed.

If you live there and have issue, take it up.
If you do NOT live there and have issue, OH WELL.
but I am SO STINKING TIRED of seeing other countries bashing other countries for not doing what the other country deems 'correct'. It IS correct - for that other country.

/rant

With all due respect it is NEVER acceptable for a person to kill innocents, civilian women and children. I lost half my left thumb in an ambush, and hold no animosty to the the guy that shot me. I put myself in uniform, I put myself in danger, I made myself a target. I personally arrested my soldier for trying to loot the body and made shure the family received his personal posessions and my heartfelt condolences for their loss through a beduion friend. I received a letter from the family thanking me for making the effort. Oddley we started to share our holy days. If you don't make the effort you aint gonna change jack sh*t.



posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by sarra1833
So TIRED of this. Other countries have their rules and their ways for reasons. REASONS.
Who are we to tell other countries what they should and should not do?
THIS is one of the reasons WHY we have so much stupid war and bloodshed.

If you live there and have issue, take it up.
If you do NOT live there and have issue, OH WELL.
but I am SO STINKING TIRED of seeing other countries bashing other countries for not doing what the other country deems 'correct'. It IS correct - for that other country.

/rant

I see both sides of this arguement. Imo, neither side is innocent and have blood on their hands. Regardless, attitudes like this sicken me.

Im sorry, but people who stand around and do nothing while innocent suffer are not good people. Yes, we would all like to see countries work their differences out on their own, but this doesnt always happen. Due to political pressure, aparthied was ended in South Africa. I suppose you would have prefered we had normal diplomatic relations with South Africa and the blacks still slaves?

Maybe we should have let Germany run rampant across Europe. After all at first it was only Polands problem, right? Then the Netherlands, then Belgium, etc. Why the hell should the Brits have interfered? Right? Not their problem.
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posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 03:01 PM
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I wasn't aware that any ancient Greek civil leaders posted here. You do realize that your thoroughly misinformed rant against youth (music) has been done before, right? You know what actually does promote violence and corruption in young people? Disengaged parents do.



posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
Yes, that's right folks...musical instruments are used for terrorism.



One of the many things that are banned from Gaza with the savage blockade that it's inhabitants are subjected to on a daily basis are musical instruments.


Import of goods into the Gaza Strip is limited as part of the 2007–present blockade of the Gaza Strip imposed by Israel and Egypt. Israel allows limited humanitarian supplies from aid organizations into the Gaza Strip. Humanitarian organizations, including UN agencies, bring goods into Gaza. As of May 2010, they have brought in, according to the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories of the Israel Defense Forces, 1.5 million liters of diesel fuel and gasoline, fruits and vegetables, wheat, sugar, meat, chicken and fish products, dairy products, animal feed, hygiene products, clothing and shoes.[1]

Cement, wood, iron, cattle, animal medicine, musical instruments, notebooks were among the items banned before June, 2010.[2]

en.wikipedia.org...


Even the Nazis allowed musical instruments in concentration camps.



www.holocaust-lestweforget.com...

www.music.ucsb.edu...

beatcrave.com...

This blockade and it's restrictions are beyond lunacy and the people of Gaza need to stop being treated like animals. The Zionists in Israel give the rest of it's inhabitants a bad name.

Even many Israelis believe the blockade to be unjust and worthy of protest:

(This article is a couple years old but proves my point)


Israelis protest Gaza blockade

Hundreds of Israelis have rallied in central Tel Aviv to protest against the Israeli blockade on the Gaza Strip.

Israeli Arab and Jewish activists marched on Saturday in the city's Rabin square, chanting slogans and waving signs calling for "Freedom and Justice in Gaza".

The protesters demanded Israel end the blockade, deeming its continuation a "war crime", the AFP news agency reported.

The Gaza Strip has been under an Israeli blockade since 2007 when Hamas seized power in the territory.

www.aljazeera.com...


Yes, there are angry Gazans who are shooting rockets into Israel and are not helping anyone in the process but that does not mean the children of Gaza and the rest of it's citizens should suffer.
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Its the continued barrage of horrible stories regarding this little spec of land that make me think !
Do I recognise Israel as a the land of the Jews ? No ! I recognise Israel is a nasty little bully, who without the help of it's so called friends would be nothing but a blemish on the Earth



posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is correct in saying Israel as an apartheid state must go -

"Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Monday Israel has no roots in the Middle East and should be - would be "eliminated" as a barbaric Zionist political entity
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posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 04:08 PM
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Okay i know how information can be twisted in a way to make it seem more sinister than it is.

Now if there is a blockade from goods getting in and some how Muscial instruments happen to fall in there, it does not mean they are purposely denying music.


This is further sensationalized by adding "CHILDREN" to it.


So we have two things people are passionate about here.. children and music.

We have a conflict between two parties.... and one is always trying to paint the other as a demon.

As usual it is the same people in here who are always looking for any reason to support their party.

I would caution all of you to take this with a grain of salt. I do not support either side since both are guilty to some extent. the only country i am concerned with is the USA being involved in this conflict in the first place by funding israel. I think it should stay away from both and let them sort it out.


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posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 04:36 PM
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that is assinine. will they ban pots and pans played like drums? how about plastic buckets w/long pencil drum sticks? a tp roll covered w/a piece of wax paper used as a kazoo? wine glasses filled w/water? people are resourceful and people who love music and want music will find a way. it's just pathetic that they need to.



posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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Another genius idea from that ass backwards, stuck in the stone age country. The ENTIRE middle east needs to be turned into one giant ash tray. What a peaceful world we would live in then.



posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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A massive thread from Cor, SnF!

and I have to agree that music can be used to instill terror. I mean after all our own gov. used this one at Waco.



Played it over and over for weeks. I got a brand new box of matches and then burned it down kids and all.



posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by sarra1833
So TIRED of this. Other countries have their rules and their ways for reasons. REASONS.
Who are we to tell other countries what they should and should not do?
THIS is one of the reasons WHY we have so much stupid war and bloodshed.

If you live there and have issue, take it up.
If you do NOT live there and have issue, OH WELL.
but I am SO STINKING TIRED of seeing other countries bashing other countries for not doing what the other country deems 'correct'. It IS correct - for that other country.

/rant


Actually it's not about what other countries or governments do it's what other humans choose to do to other humans. Humans choose to pick up weapons and fire them at other humans...it's a choice. Soldiers can make a choice to not fire their guns, or rockets, or any other things at other humans....yet they always seem to make the choice to kill rather than love. It is an individual choice that each person must make....why the soldiers from all countries don't just refuse to kill is beyond me.



posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 05:46 PM
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This sh*t is just getting way past silly, its like you got 5 year old's in charge of both sides of the aisle....And given that there is to much bad blood between them now, I do not think things will be smoothed out so easily. If we ie America are going to be playing world police lets at least do it right, or don't do it at all.

But letting this whole thing continue like this will only lead to the same thing coming back around, because what goes around eventually even if it takes ages or generations eventually comes back around. And then they will probably blame god or some such as they usually do and swear vengeance which will just lead to repeating the cycle again...And if there really is a god, he or she or it is going to be like.....Oh man this sh*t again...FACEPALM.



posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 07:03 PM
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Nothing they say makes sense to me, probably because there not human.



posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 07:08 PM
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Taylor Swift is definitely a terrorist.

Keep on Rockin in the Free World.



posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by phatpackage
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Another Israel bashing thread. Great!!! Just what the world needs right now to promote peace! If you are so much for peace why do you present your argument in a war like tone? I smell the "H" word! LOL!

Hmmmm says it all. We all know who the real warmongers are and it is not Israel.




What the world needs to promote peace is to go after the real bad guys. YOU are part of the big problem, not the guy who created this thread. This thread was presented in a manner to "shock" the reader into realizing that Israel is claiming one thing, while doing another thing completely. If you paid attention to world politics, and the history of world politics, you would realize just how corrupt the leadership of Israel really is, and just how hypocritical they are as well when it comes to dealing with other countries. They try to impose things they themselves will have no part of, and these things are often instruments that promote peace.



posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 08:18 PM
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they can ban instruments,but they can't ban humor!!!!!



posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 09:14 PM
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Very interesting thread, and I do not have much to say about it aside from the fact I was born in the religion of Islam, and have lost interest in any religion since I opened my mind to infinite possibility. I remember at a young age, I was practicing Islam daily; and found that in the Kur'an it is stated that music is the instrument of the devil (or what ever you prefer to call it).

As for myself, I do not agree with it.

dubz



posted on Oct, 23 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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The Gaza Music School (GMS) was established in response to growing demand for music education voiced by children and parents who attend the Qattan Center for the Child (QCC) in Gaza City, one of the A. M. Qattan Foundation’s main projects. It is a unique project and is the only place for children to learn music in the Gaza Strip.

The school specialises in Arabic instruments such as the Kanoun and the Oud but also teaches Western classical music theory and a number of instruments. The school was destroyed during the conflict with Israel in January 2009 – but was immediately rebuilt and opened again to students in April 2009. In 2010 it counted 52 students and in 2011, the number reached 87 students.

The number of students by April 2012 was 125 students learning music and 9 oriental and classical instruments. Visit here to learn more about this inspirational project You can support the GMS in a number of ways. If you are an artist or musician you could organise a concert tour in Gaza, offer an invitation to a Palestinian group to perform or study in the UK, or host a benefit concert. If you are a music teacher, you could think of giving some of your time to support the staff in the GMS. Alternatively if you are able to contribute instruments or notation or donate funds these are most welcome.



Fundraising Concert for Gaza Music School

I call BS on your thread.

Wiki is your Proof?




Fact is CONTRIBUTE ! Send your cash ! Send your Musical Instruments !

I just proved that not only is there a school, but children ARE playing Instruments.


You can send Instruments To Gaza for children TO PLAY !


Say its not another Jew bashing thread....................

Hope it gets bounced to the Hoax Bin, where it belongs.



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