Girl dies after drinking an energy drink

This is a Darwin award candidate. Everyone knows, even teenagers, that caffeine is a stimulant that makes your heart rate increase.

reply to post by SpearMint


Honestly, I think there is more to this story, but I don't have any evidence.

i can be accused of ATSers of supporting the nanny state, but seriously, this one is on the girl. I do have my stupidity limits.

It is an energy drink called Monster. Unless she couldn't read, she knew what she was drinking. Ignorance could play a part I guess. There are a billion energy drinks now.

Ok, maybe I just argued myself out of this discussion. LOL!

Originally posted by boncho
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The ld50 is extremely high. If people have a heart condition, they should avoid it. Simple as that.

Extreme overdose can result in death.[63][64] The median lethal dose (LD50) given orally, is 192 milligrams per kilogram in rats. The LD50 of caffeine in humans is dependent on individual sensitivity, but is estimated to be about 150 to 200 milligrams per kilogram of body mass or roughly 80 to 100 cups of coffee for an average adult.[4]

This figure from the OP is also incorrect by the way.

For comparison, one can (480mg of caffeine) is equal to about 8-10 cups of coffee or 14 cans of coke.

en.wikipedia.org...

Coffee, espresso 44–60 mL (1.5–2.0 US fl oz) 100 1,691–2,254
Tea – black, green, and other types, – steeped for 3 min. 177 millilitres (6.0 US fl oz) 22–74[76][77] 124–416
Guayakí yerba mate (loose leaf) 6 g (200 US fl oz) 85[78] approx. 358
Coca-Cola Classic 355 mL (12.0 US fl oz) 34 96
Mountain Dew 355 mL (12.0 US fl oz) 54 154
Guaraná Antarctica 350 mL (12 US fl oz) 30 100
Jolt Cola 695 mL (23.5 US fl oz) 280 403
Red Bull 250 mL (8.5 US fl oz) 80 320

Who the hell drinks 1.5 litres of energy drinks anyway?

What part of it is incorrect? It varies depending on the type of coffee, size of the cup etc, it's a rough estimate. I don't really understand what those stats are saying.

"Who the hell drinks 1.5 litres of energy drinks anyway?"

A lot more teenagers than you think :l

reply to post by SpearMint

Chicken bones aren't an additive and are not addictive, you're also not meant to eat them, it's a lot different.

Yes, but she could have just as easily got the same caffeine from a couple doubleshot Americanos, or Espressos...

Stay away from my food and drinks.

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by SpearMint

 

Honestly, I think there is more to this story, but I don't have any evidence.

i can be accused of ATSers of supporting the nanny state, but seriously, this one is on the girl. I do have my stupidity limits.

It is an energy drink called Monster. Unless she couldn't read, she knew what she was drinking. Ignorance could play a part I guess. There are a billion energy drinks now.

Ok, maybe I just argued myself out of this discussion. LOL!

Yeah, I'm not denying that she was in the wrong and should have known better.

reply to post by SpearMint

What part of it is incorrect? It varies depending on the type of coffee, size of the cup etc, it's a rough estimate. I don't really understand what those stats are saying.

One of the Monster drink is only equivalent to about 6 cans of coke. Not 14. Compared to espresso, ml for ml the energy drink has a third of the caffeine.

Kids like espresso in the form of ice caps/lattes.

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by SpearMint

What part of it is incorrect? It varies depending on the type of coffee, size of the cup etc, it's a rough estimate. I don't really understand what those stats are saying.

 

One of the Monster drink is only equivalent to about 6 cans of coke. Not 14. Compared to espresso, ml for ml the energy drink has a third of the caffeine.

Kids like espresso in the form of ice caps/lattes

Classic Coca-Cola has 34 mg per can, that's 14.1 cans. Espresso's aren't served in 750ml cans, one serving is about 60ml max. Energy drinks are sold in cans that equal the maximum daily caffeine dosage. One can.

Originally posted by Manhater
There should be age limit on the drink, children don't need monster drinks. Especially 14 year olds.
RIP little one.

edit on 22-10-2012 by Manhater because: (no reason given)

Totally agreed.. There should be an age requirement to buy these drinks, like cigarettes and alcohol.
Another problem solver: Have a weight chart and dosage amount, because of the caffeine. There are caffeine pills( like Vivarin) that do the same thing. Makes me mad, why there are not more regulated warnings and limits for these "Killer Monster" drinks? I have a 17 year old and she drinks them(even at 14) and i cant be with her 24/7 to make sure she doesnt over due it, which she has told me she's done. They should not be allowed to buy them...
It is a very sad thing to hear a young girl dies because of this.

reply to post by SpearMint

Anais Fournier reportedly had what is usually a harmless heart condition, called mitral valve prolapse

after reading the above - my opinion would be that any lawsuit aimed at the drink manufacturer would be frivolous

and that the only recourse her family MIGHT have would be to sue the doctor manageing her condition for malpractice IF he failed to warn the family of the seriousness of the condition

but googling the tail , i found a quote from the girls mother :

"She drank another one less than 24 hours later, even though she knew I do not allow them

ooops - the family knew that she shouldnt drink these things

case closed

reply to post by lyons666

It is a very sad thing to hear a young girl dies because of this.

She died because of a heart condition.

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by SpearMint

 

Anais Fournier reportedly had what is usually a harmless heart condition, called mitral valve prolapse

after reading the above - my opinion would be that any lawsuit aimed at the drink manufacturer would be frivolous

and that the only recourse her family MIGHT have would be to sue the doctor manageing her condition for malpractice IF he failed to warn the family of the seriousness of the condition

but googling the tail , i found a quote from the girls mother :

"She drank another one less than 24 hours later, even though she knew I do not allow them

ooops - the family knew that she shouldnt drink these things

case closed

I don't think they have a case either, that's not why I made the thread.

The other concern too is the wicked calories in these things. I gained 5 lbs on a Redbull kick. You have to be careful.. Advertise that angle to teen girls.

Warning on a Monster can:

"Consume responsibly - limit 3 cans per day. Not recommended for children, pregnant women or people sensitive to caffine"

Originally posted by Butter
Warning on a Monster can:

"Consume responsibly - limit 3 cans per day. Not recommended for children, pregnant women or people sensitive to caffine"

3 cans? What size can is that from? That warning is not strict enough and no where near as visible as it should be.

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by Butter
Warning on a Monster can:

"Consume responsibly - limit 3 cans per day. Not recommended for children, pregnant women or people sensitive to caffine"

3 cans? What size can is that from? That warning is not strict enough and no where near as visible as it should be.

That's a 16 fl. oz. can

Or you can go ahead and get the 32 fl. oz. BFC. I drank two of these when I attended Bamboozle Festival.
Bad idea.. But here it is:
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Originally posted by Butter

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by Butter
Warning on a Monster can:

"Consume responsibly - limit 3 cans per day. Not recommended for children, pregnant women or people sensitive to caffine"

3 cans? What size can is that from? That warning is not strict enough and no where near as visible as it should be.

That's a 16 fl. oz. can

Oh ok, so 3 cans of that is about 1344ml, which means the max amount of these big cans must be one. Thanks for the info.

No one bothers reading the warning label? *heart conditions, pregnant, caffeine intolerance, etc etc

seems like a Natural Selection at works.

I use to be a energy drink addict..i go over the warning labels limit, 2x 3x the amount... till my family doctor told me that its causing me abnormal heartbeats and it can lead to serious problem, i guess i withstood because of my body size..smaller bodies size would be easy susceptible.. same with alcohol.

Will they sue the company successfully, i highly doubt it, will they put regulation on it, on the amount of caffeine per can, probably.

Anyone ever made a energy drink cocktail, mmmm, mmm, mmm lol, its deadly. mix bunch of energy drink, slow boil, cool > drink... concentrated!

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by lyons666

It is a very sad thing to hear a young girl dies because of this.

 

She died because of a heart condition.

Even more reason the drinks should be regulated. She was 14 and apparently did not have the maturity needed to realize exactly what she was ingesting and the possible consequences. That is why cigarettes and alcohol are not for "under 21".
She either was trying to kill herself or did not realize what she ingesting and consequences of it due to her heart condition. That is my opinion.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by buster2010
The parents have no case. The company didn't force the girl to drink them and she chose to ignore the warning. It's sad that she died but the company isn't at fault here. If a person dies in a car wreck from driving too fast should the family sue the car company?

I'm not sure that killing yourself by driving too fast and killing yourself by drinking 2 cans of high energy drink are quite analogous.

She was also only a girl of 14. I imagine that if the drink manufacturer knew or should have know that this aggravated a common condition that can lead to fatalities, the family may well have a case.

in the uk you have to be over 16 to buy it but i think there should be a law to have an age limit of 18