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Child Molesters and a video "Boys for Sale"

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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 01:07 AM
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I was researching online tonight as I was going to write about pedophiles. There is a video that was about a well connected group of them that were involved in government called "The Franklin Cover-Up" or Franklin Conspiracy. Many of you probably have seen it on YouTube, if not, it is definitely worth a watch. Someone bought the documentary just before it was to show on PBS or the Discovery Channel and destroyed or hid all the copies, it never showed; but, one copy remained and was posted online. If you have not seen it, here is a link. Love me or hate; but, make sure people see the video, flag and don't star me; but, let people see the video.

YouTube - Conspiracy of Silence: The Franklin Cover Up - Censored Documentary!

I was investigating a guy named Jimmy Saville who is accused of molesting many young girls in England while working as a star with the BBC for five decades. Somehow this video came up and it is incredibly disturbing especially as it was made 31 years ago.

YouTube - Boys for Sale, 1/2

YouTube - Boys for Sale, 2/2

I looked up the professor in the video, apparently he committed suicide, that was convenient. He does not mention the Franklin Conspiracy, I don't think it had been made yet. I checked, it had not, it was made three years after the professor died. I think what I found the most disturbing about the "Boys For Sale" interview was that the professor talked about how politicians were involved because that is exactly what "The Franklin Cover Up" three years later was about. These documentaries are disturbing and the subject matter is disturbing; but, they raise such serious questions.
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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 03:03 AM
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I started watching the two videos, and stopped about 15 minutes in both times.
Too uncomfortable and getting too angry, anyone who tampers with a child male or female.
There's only one answer, for the cost of a single bullet. These sick people cant be rehabilitated and yet out taxes are keeping them fed and clothed. One bullet is all it would take.
Star and flag



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by kudegras
I started watching the two videos, and stopped about 15 minutes in both times.
Too uncomfortable and getting too angry, anyone who tampers with a child male or female.
There's only one answer, for the cost of a single bullet. These sick people cant be rehabilitated and yet out taxes are keeping them fed and clothed. One bullet is all it would take.
Star and flag


Dear kudegras,

It is disturbing; but, not graphic. We have to understand what is going on to effect it. The professor was talking about priests, the boy scouts and the elite all being involved in pedophilia and this was 31 years ago. He did not have a political or religious bend on the subject, he was just looking at it. He showed how the police intentionally ignored these things. We need to understand how organized pedophiles are. We need to understand how involved the powerful are in this practice.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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Hey, just ask Pet Townsend what happens when you do "research" on child porn


This idiot actually paid for a subscription to a CP site with his OWN credit card, then used the "research" excuse when caught. and basically got a slap on the wrist

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Townshend also breaks his nine-year silence about his 2003 arrest for paying to access child pornography online. When questioned by police at the time, he claimed he was doing research for his book. “I believe I was sexually abused between the age of five and six and a half when in the care of my maternal grandmother who was mentally ill at the time,” Pete says. “Some of the things I have seen on the Internet have informed my book.”

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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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To see how far this goes, the fact that it has been discovered more then once, and covered up again, and again, look up "the Finders". I have done a small piece on this while researching MkUltra programs.

Peace, NRE.

Here is an extensive look into this, thank you OP for this, it is ignored in the worst way.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

S&F
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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 03:52 PM
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This is sick. This guy should be in prison.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 04:32 PM
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Dear John_Rodger_Cornman,

Why should the professor be in jail for exposing how children are being abused? Did you even attempt to watch the videos? They are about exposing what these people are doing and how organized the pedophiles are.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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Yeh I guess.

Why are pedophiles allowed access to do that?



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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Child abuse is not amusing. These videos are about how organized these pedophiles are and how it gets covered up and ignored. As for Mr. Townsend, look up Jimmy Saville and Gary Glitter, people he knew. Look up Corey Feldman, the entertainment industry has long tolerated and hidden pedophiles.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 04:36 PM
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Access to what, what are you trying to say or ask?



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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This is a subject that goes as far down the rabbit hole as we can get. After looking into many cases, looking for answers, I found myself bothered by most things, and actually stopped researching for a while. Not just because of the disturbing nature, but the fact that no matter how much evidence is available people still have this "it cant possibly be true" attitude.

This goes into the videos you posted as well as, ritual abuse, group homes, the child welfare agencies, mental facilities, and the list goes on and on. There are known places on this planet that have women get pregnant, so that these "people" can raise children from a young age, not to mention illegal adoptions and the poor that sell their children.

Sorry for continuing to reply but this subject is very close to my heart.

Peace, NRE.

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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 05:09 PM
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Dear NoRegretsEver,

Anything you have to add is welcome. It is not a subject that I had studied as much as I should have. Even after watching the Franklin video, I didn't understand the scope until I watched the one with the professor in it. Thanks.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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Believe me I also thought that this was something isolated.. until I found tons of information, noted, documented information including videos, and statements made from people that get shunned and told that they are crazy.

The most damaging thing that has happened to this research was the "false memory" syndrome that started in the 80's, where children were questioned, and then were diagnosed as making up elaborate stories, or it was found that therapists were making kids make things up.

Yes, I agree that in some cases this was very true, but in more then half, the stories were true, and the technique, of false memories started to over shadow thousands of children's stories, that eventually got swept under the table.

This has been happening in someway over thousands of years, at some times this was open, and others hidden like it is now. Just as a side note, I think this is also how the stories of scary figures like the "boogey man", and things hiding under the bed started (or is a variation of something much older), that also was and is still used to discredit children.

Peace, NRE.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 06:54 PM
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Dear NoRegretsEver,

You have hit the nail on the head. I would read all of these articles about "Ritual Child Abuse" and "Recovered Memories" and some of it seemed so ridiculous that I didn't understand the true scope of what is going on. I knew about Franklin; but, assumed it was limited. When I saw the video on "Boys For Sale" the professor did talk about those things, he was just talking about the reality of how these young boys are used. He pointed out that the men that use them are usually wealthy, powerful and straight. They seem to enjoy the power aspect.

The professor in the video had the first and as far as I know only class specifically looking into these things. I read that he died from an apparent suicide ten years after this video was made. In one of the videos he mentioned how his car had been shot at, he considered it a warning and kept going on with his work.

It now seems to me that the high profile stuff was being used to hide the truth of what is going on.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 07:06 PM
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I will say this, if this is where you are initially starting this this is still in the beginning. Sadly, it will get worse. I used to be angry that people refused to look at this, as you saw in my thread, most people were trying to mock the poor women in the video, but those of us that knew what it was, it opened a more recent door to something that seemed like only happened many years ago, but wouldn't happen today.

I will add this, if you look at today's society, you will see that these more secretive things happened "before" the change of children. Just look at how children are portrayed today. As adults, in adult themes, with adult clothing. That's why its less talked about.

Instead of bringing out the taboo, we made the taboo, look innocent. Nobody questions why there are thongs for 10 year old's, or why most children on disney or in music have "split personalities", we are actually teaching children to suppress actions that are meant to be discovered, by making it fun.

We took this video that was made 30 years, ago and turned it into something that looks ancient, when we can see it everyday in HD quality by turning on the t.v.

Sorry, I get really into this, but I have been looking into this for years, and the blindness to it is disturbing to say the least.

Peace, NRE.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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Dear NoRegretsEver,



I will add this, if you look at today's society, you will see that these more secretive things happened "before" the change of children. Just look at how children are portrayed today. As adults, in adult themes, with adult clothing. That's why its less talked about. Instead of bringing out the taboo, we made the taboo, look innocent. Nobody questions why there are thongs for 10 year old's, or why most children on disney or in music have "split personalities", we are actually teaching children to suppress actions that are meant to be discovered, by making it fun.


I agree. I have talked about how children are being sexualized in the media. I remember people on the internet counting down the days until the Olsen twins would be 18, it was pretty disgusting. When Corey Feldman came out and talked about pedophelia in Hollywood, one actress said how it was common knowledge that the Coreys were used in that way; but, the police have not done anything. The studios practically own the police in Los Angeles. All the shoots are guarded by off duty or retired police who are paid very well by the studios.

Dr. Tom Philpott shook their world.



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