reply to post by PurpleChiten
My trial by fire moment came in 2010, I think... It was a thread couched as a "Fathers rights" thread. This attracted me because even though I had
paid child support punctually and fully for nearly a decade after my divorce, my ex wife refused to allow me to see my son - at all - and I could not
get a court to uphold my rights. And God knows I tried over and over and over... So I entered the thread thinking I would have something to
The problem was that the thread wasn't really about "fathers rights". It was actually a very stealthy pro life thread masquerading as a "fathers
rights" thread.. Basically a bunch of guys screaming "If a woman can have an abortion, then no man should ever
have to pay a penny towards a
child - he should be allowed to have a "financial responsibility abortion", at will!! Fair is fair."
Even though my son was taken from me by my evil ex... I never had a single issue with providing for him. I love him, He's my son... The idea of
deadbeat Dads just gets under my skin.
Needless to say my very first post in the thread was something like "You do have rights in this regard. You have the rights to keep your damn pants
on and not create kids you are too sorry to support!"
And it went downhill from there.
For about four or five days I would log on, expecting fully to find myself banned. Get surprised that I wasn't banned... and then get drawn back to
that thread - where I'd rage, post my rage, and log off again. Rinse and repeat.
I was absolutely an emotional wreck before it was all said and done. But I learned a few lessons from it.
1) Rarely, if ever, will we debate anyone else into changing an entrenched position.
2) By standing up, strongly and loudly, for what I thought was "right", all I actually accomplished, in the end, was putting my own account at risk.
Which would have made the people I was debating happy - which would have sucked! All of my righteous anger did not change a single persons mind on the
3) It really isn't hard to get sucked into the wrong things, even with the best of intentions. Everyone in a mud wrestling match ends up dirty - good
guys and bad guys.
4) When ATS follows you into the real world, stress wise? Something needs to change! I love this place, but when I walk away from my computer? I leave
ATS in its place.
5) Keyboards break easy
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
Hey Heff, can you get a sex change so I can have a crush on you?
I think it was either Shakespeare or Milton who said....
HELL to the NO!!!