Global Financial Meltdown is a Prophecy from Jesus 2000 years Ago, page 2


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reply posted on 22-10-2012 @ 12:54 AM by randyvs
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Enoch I think you're right. As I read your thread this song just kept coming to mind and resonating as clear as a damn bell. If I may ?



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reply posted on 22-10-2012 @ 06:42 AM by EnochWasRight
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Good call:

"When interviewed by Rolling Stone magazine, John Fogerty was asked, "Does 'Who'll Stop The Rain' contain lyrically specific meanings besides the symbolic dimension?" His response: "Certainly, I was talking about Washington when I wrote the song, but I remember bringing the master version of the song home and playing it. My son Josh was four years old at the time, and after he heard it, he said, 'Daddy stop the rain.' And my wife and I looked at each other and said, 'Well, not quite.'" (thanks, Brett - Edmonton, Canada, for above 3)"

"Watched the Tower Grow."

Isaiah 9

"The bricks have fallen down, but we will rebuild with dressed stone; the fig trees have been felled, but we will replace them with cedars."


reply posted on 22-10-2012 @ 07:00 AM by EnochWasRight
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Oh. So the moral of the story, parable, is that we should know our (financial) place. Let the rich keep there money and when they steal it from us we should just know our place.

Sounds like a bankers wet dream.

This thread is about finance and global melt down right ? Just checking.


Debt must always be paid. When I earn $50, the debt was paid by my work before the $50 arrived in my hand. A thief comes along and steals what I earned. He now takes possession of the $50, but now owes the debt for what was taken. I am now down $50. I am then obligated to earn another $50 because of the debt the thief produced. In the end, the debt he owes is given back to me as payment in multiples in the end for being wronged. The enemy becomes the footstool.

As the Bible says, "They have their reward."

Matthew 6:20

But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.

Psalm 127:1

A song of ascents. Of Solomon. Unless the LORD builds the house, its builders labor in vain. Unless the LORD watches over the city, the watchmen stand guard in vain.

What does it mean in the Bible about the house and the builders? Builders are those who possess a mind. The mind is the builder. A house is where we reside now and in the future. What we do now is bound in heaven and what we loose here is loosed in heaven. The purpose is building the next house. All souls occupy a dwelling and the builder is responsible for directing the work on the next building. Goat hair tents lead to mud and brick. After mud and brick, the builder can used stone. Eventually, there is a solid foundation and structure that cannot be moved. The wilderness and nomadic life is replaced with the solid footing of a house unmoved.

Men who build their own house build in vain. In my signature, there is an article on goat hair tents that explains this story from the root morphology of the Hebrew language.

John 14:2
14 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God[a]; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”
Jesus the Way to the Father

5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

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reply posted on 22-10-2012 @ 08:43 AM by windword
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There was no debt unpaid in the parable I cited, only unmet expectation. The master underestimated the ability of his servant and was disappointed that he didn't invest the money, bring interest to his investment. As a result, the master took the money from the servant, who had faithfully kept it, and sent him into the darkness to starve to death.

This is a picture of the greed that drives inflation and crushes the little guy, who's priorities are not wealth, and doesn't live life with an intent of greed and usury.




reply posted on 22-10-2012 @ 10:24 AM by randyvs
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Isaiah 9 ?

Hell ya ! I follow you. NYC they planted one after......We seem to share some discernment qualities. Tho I see yours as more educated and well read.

Good thread OP !
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reply posted on 22-10-2012 @ 04:50 PM by EnochWasRight
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There was no debt unpaid in the parable I cited, only unmet expectation. The master underestimated the ability of his servant and was disappointed that he didn't invest the money, bring interest to his investment. As a result, the master took the money from the servant, who had faithfully kept it, and sent him into the darkness to starve to death.

This is a picture of the greed that drives inflation and crushes the little guy, who's priorities are not wealth, and doesn't live life with an intent of greed and usury.


It's a concept called stewardship and you are confusing this with ownership. You own nothing here in the wilderness of life. You think and move, nothing more. Your hair grows for you and your eyes see. You do none of it. God has given it to you and you are a steward of this gift. You can think and move only. You own nothing here.

A steward is a person who manages another's property or financial affairs; one who administers anything as the agent of another or others.

Stewardship is the position and duties of a steward, a person who acts as the surrogate of another or others, especially by managing property, financial affairs, an estate, etc.

Wikipedia

If you think anything here in this life is yours, think again. This is your inheritance from the Father who gives it to the one with the birthright.


reply posted on 22-10-2012 @ 05:46 PM by windword
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So, who are the money changers/bankers in this parable? Why does the master value their service above the servant's experience. Clearly, the master has underestimated the financial acuity and intellectual ability of his servant, for him to be so harsh. Isn't an investment a gamble? How ethical is it for the master to disown the servant because the master broke even?

Did the servant need money to reap and gather straw from lands other than his masters? Can a life be simplistic, with one living within ones' needs only, and not out to make more and more money, all the time, and still be worthy?

The global financial breakdown that society is experiencing is due to greedy bankers, politicians and businessmen who do not value ordinary people. They want more, more revenue, more sales, higher prices and higher taxes. They are insatiable and relentless, like the master of the parable. If they don't get more, more, more, they'll crush you, throw you out like rubbish and never look back, just like the master in the parable.


reply posted on 23-10-2012 @ 01:13 PM by randyvs
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You and I are caught up in what others see as a fable.
Five year plans for new deals wrapped in golden chains

I've never seen Fogerty as anything less than a prophet. I think it's one of the main reasons the business treated them so poorly. They knew.

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reply posted on 23-10-2012 @ 07:13 PM by Americanist
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Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh.
But when the taxman comes to the door,
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes...


You've left quite a mess here under your stewardship
You thought you figured it out but you'll learn your place in this
Might take some convincing for you to see the truth
There are so many things we've got in store for you.





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reply posted on 27-10-2012 @ 07:40 AM by itsallmaya
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Wow, another brilliant thread and so well thought out.

It amazes me that you don't get more stars and flags!




reply posted on 27-10-2012 @ 09:07 AM by EnochWasRight
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Wow, another brilliant thread and so well thought out.

It amazes me that you don't get more stars and flags!



Thank you. The next in this series of threads is found here. LINK Consider the Secret Message in the Sign of Jonah.

Then, compare this verse to what you read:

Hosea 6:2, "After two days he will revive us, On the third day He will raise us up."

Brilliant is more a word to use for God. I am merely noticing.


reply posted on 27-10-2012 @ 09:18 AM by EnochWasRight
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There's a great deal of symbolism in that song. Mirrored in the lyrics are images of one true Master and the master that took the house. Genesis 6 and Enoch outline the master that took the house and knew the day of his judgment. Enoch gives the timing of this judgment and the song reflects the lament that it is over. Time to go down as the lyrics say.

Count down to the end
Gotta make it come faster, faster
Right around the bend
Is a coming disaster
Count down to the end
And we're headed their faster
Come on down my friend
It's time to meet your master

The glory in this is found in grace and mercy. The true Master allows us a way out through repentance. The fallen angels (That's us) have come down from their first estate to be with the daughters of men.

Jude 1

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

On the other hand, there are some of us here that are not of this father, but are form the Father above. We are here for quite another reason. Are the Sons of Light affected by the Sons of Darkness? Yes. Read this thread: LINK

It's a cosmic battle fought on a battlefield called Earth. The light will win and there is no getting around this fact. Repentance is offered to all that are here wearing the water of baptism. That is again, all of us.

The song laments as if there is no other choice. There is and I have presented it here to the shine a light in a dark place.
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