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Originally posted by muse7
So are you telling me that
Finland
Denmark
Sweden
Germany
Austria
Are not intelligent societies?
Originally posted by muse7
These countries have a well established welfare system for their citizens that need it. Sure there might be people who abuse it, but that does not mean that a country should not look after its citizens that need the help, and no one is "redistributing" anything. The government creates the welfare system by using money taken from taxes. As you might already know, every citizen is supposed to pay taxes if they are working and receive a certain amount of income.
Originally posted by muse7
Please stop selling your feudalistic society, because the working poor are getting fed up with conservatives that want the poor to wait under the table for scraps to be thrown at them.
So are you telling me that Finland Denmark Sweden Germany Austria Are not intelligent societies?
Originally posted by IsawWHATtheyDID
i believe that if these programs offered the bare minimum of help, it would limit the number of people looking for a free ride. when people on assistance are living a better life than the ones willing to work, it sends the wrong message. when people are able to have cable, cell phones , and now fast food,by only filling out one job app a week , it promotes their false sense of entitlements, and limits their want of self dependence.
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by ModernAcademia
It's simple math that people refuse to see. I, like another poster, have experiance in these EU Nations and can tell you without a doubt. THEY DO NOT WORK! This video is not propaganda, it's common sense.
The simple answer that many choose to ignore are the Austerity protests. The people have been getting freebies for so long, they don't want off the gov't teat. But the money is just not there anymore.
It's as simple as that.
You may have noticed that I used the word "simple" a lot in this post. That is because I am a firm believer in the KISS principle.
"Keep It Simple, Stupid!"
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by ModernAcademia
It's simple math that people refuse to see. I, like another poster, have experiance in these EU Nations and can tell you without a doubt. THEY DO NOT WORK! This video is not propaganda, it's common sense.
The simple answer that many choose to ignore are the Austerity protests. The people have been getting freebies for so long, they don't want off the gov't teat. But the money is just not there anymore.
It's as simple as that.
Originally posted by IsawWHATtheyDID
reply to post by akushla99
by "bare minimum" i am refering to the basics, food, shelter. instead of a debit card that they can use for most things and are able to draw cash from an atm. they should be provided with food coupons like the w.i.c recipients. there are coupons for milk, beans, cereal , juice, cheese, eggs,etc etc. one of the things that bother me most is going grocery shopping,and seeing some person with a grocery cart full of soda, chips and the like, filled to the rim, and swiping their bridge card. what was the old adage , give someone a hand up, not a hand out?
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by Bluesma
Ok, cool...I'm lazy in your opinion.
But things in Europe are heating up. The Austerity cuts are affecting people and they are not happy are they.
When I say I abide by the KISS priciple, I mean that by keeping things Black and White. No room for they grey area.
Life really is simple if you don't take things personally.
Do I depend upon the Gov't...yeppers. But I also take a measure of personnel responsibility as well.
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by Bluesma
Ok, cool...I'm lazy in your opinion.
But things in Europe are heating up. The Austerity cuts are affecting people and they are not happy are they.