posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 07:17 AM
Originally posted by TheBlackHat
I used to think I was better that the "weak" people, the undisciplined ones who's problems were all of their own making.
No person is entirely the author of the success they achieve or the misery they may succumb to as such would require a 'perfectly' balanced world
where everyone were born with exactly the same genetic makeup, parents who had the same resource availability, characters and a host of other factors
that ensures that there is no equal in our individual struggles in this mad capitalist world.
I am however glad to hear that you used to think that way and have since come to other conclusions or at least a better understanding!
That they sought out a life of misery and their main goal was self destruction... plus the fact that misery loves company...and the weak
people, seem to have the ability to drag sober and rational people along and down to their level, like vampires of zombies, they infect normal people
who get too close to them.
This is the sort of belief that empowers those that have gained some success ( in the capitalist model this mean capitol accumulation and the
resulting 'commodity' benefits)and helps to alleviate some of the guilt they feel for having so much while others clearly have so very little. This
is not unexpected as Christian and most other moral systems tells us expressly that wealth accumulation is essentially a sin against your fellow man
and one that will most certainly bar the doors too heaven. Thus those who wish you to indulge yourself fully in the capitalist system have found ways
to try help salve the distress the lack of compassion the system engenders causes by trying to help you believe that those who have not gained
material wealth are entirely responsible for their failure and that you should not feel guilty for stepping on people who brought it on themselves.
That the system of capitalism have been forced on the large majority of the worlds population and that it has the express aim of undermining the
economic independence of all people or people's who attempts to maintain their economic independence is simply not known.
All this is true...but its only one way of looking at life...its true that human weaknesses and addictions come from zero self
disciplin...however many people find themselves in bad situations...situations they didn't bank on or plan for...and the added pressures of life when
things go wrong...help to push people into giving up.
If people really had zero self discipline they would be rioting, and if they had any understanding of who and why the system works as it does there
would by assassinations and killings going on in even the most 'civilized' nations, and taking whatever goods they needed to survive but instead
the vast majority are in fact trying to take part in this system to whatever measure they can manage.
The other problem with your analysis is the presumption that there is a blank slate at birth whereas the facts in fact tell us rather clearly that a
person's economic independence prospects are too a very very significant degree determined at his birth and why he is born too; neither are factors a
newborn has any control over.
So are people worth helping? Well we are all weak people, and we all need help, some more than others...but due to the fact that helping
someone is fraught with risks. Id throw I rope to a man drowning in quicksand, but Id not swim out to drown with him.
So you should help others, but know how to help them without hurting yourself in the process.
I prefer the word 'flawed' as surviving in the conditions most people on this planet still do requires the mental fortitude to accept that the world
around you has conspired to keep you in a very specific place ( if you were a women for most of human history you basically had no independence of
important life changing action/decision) living a life you never chose and can not change. As always each man's moral code will determine what he is
willing to sacrifice to help others in need and the danger is of course in being taught a moral code that tells you that people suffer because they
brought it entirely on themselves thus turning history on it's head and disregarding all moral considerations; why would one after all help anyone
who have done it to themselves?
so If anyhow has too much of it...Im ready to allow you to help me...haha.
When morality reigns people do not have to independently seek resources for future survival as they will be both supporting each other and defending
each others interest until the end of their lives. Independent capital accumulation, especially in zero sum economic systems where it comes from
someone else, is not Christian and there is no great moral arguments to be made in favor of it either.
But at least the west is Christian and all so there is hope, right?