Am I Free To Go?

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posted on Oct, 21 2012 @ 03:47 PM
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I believe this belongs in this forum but if not...



So, I have questions:

1. Is the driver in the right and if not, why did they let him go?

2. He's over the border by 30 miles. Does this come into play as to whether he can be stopped and questioned?

3. Is it only this border or can this happen at any border in the US?

From what I see with the agent's inability or unwillingness to hold him for refusing to answer their questions, they knew he was in the right. So if that's the case, why are they allowed to do this?

And one more question. If this incident shows that the US Govt. is illegally stopping and questioning citizens while all it takes is "Am I Free To Go?" when stopped...why isn't everyone exercising this right?

I don't get it.

Peace




posted on Oct, 21 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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Citizens who have done nothing wrong have no obligation to talk to the police.

They can only detain you with probable cause, with out it you are with in your right to walk away.

So the "am I free to go" Question forces the issue for the police, they either have to detain you at that point or let you go.

eta.

Talking to police does not benefit you as a citizen in any way shape or form, nothing you say can be used in your defense in trial only against you.

So why would you ever speak freely to a cop?
edit on 21-10-2012 by benrl because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 21 2012 @ 04:16 PM
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Good stuff, did he said he signed the 5th amendment or something, but that didn't seem to bother the guard too much, it seemed more like the words, like they where not allowed to say no. I think the true law is unless we have not been seen committing a crime, we should be able to do this.




posted on Oct, 21 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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The driver was being difficult and acting suspicious.
What makes him so special he shouldn't have to answer the question of if he was a citizen?

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posted on Oct, 21 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by violet
The driver was being difficult and acting suspicious.
What makes him so special he shouldn't have to answer the question of if he was a citizen?

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The question I asked is why did they let him go? If they were in the right then they could have arrested him or detained at the very least.

But it seems that the driver was in the right and he stood his ground.

Why does that make him difficult? Because he chose to exercise his rights?

Peace



posted on Oct, 21 2012 @ 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by violet
The driver was being difficult and acting suspicious.
What makes him so special he shouldn't have to answer the question of if he was a citizen?

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I would ask the same question of non-citizens.
Why are citizens held to strict law enforcement standards and non-citizens federally mandated to be set free even if they are in the country illegally?



posted on Oct, 21 2012 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by violet
The driver was being difficult and acting suspicious.
What makes him so special he shouldn't have to answer the question of if he was a citizen?

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Simply put....His Rights.



posted on Oct, 21 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Now that's funny. They didn't like it one bit that they couldn't bully somebody into submission. In the near future, this will sadly be the norm on practically every street and neighborhood.



posted on Oct, 21 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by snowen20

Originally posted by violet
The driver was being difficult and acting suspicious.
What makes him so special he shouldn't have to answer the question of if he was a citizen?

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Simply put....His Rights.


Exactly.

So then I have to think that in essence, the people lining up at that same border are actually just lining up and waiting to have their rights violated.

"Please Sir...Can you violate me next? I have to get home and catch my shows."

Peace



posted on Oct, 21 2012 @ 05:38 PM
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One knows they live in a free country when asking a officer of the law "Am I free to go?". When the Officer says "Yes you are free to go at any time" then you know you are truly free.

I am glad you posted this.



posted on Oct, 21 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by ManOfHart
One knows they live in a free country when asking a officer of the law "Am I free to go?". When the Officer says "Yes you are free to go at any time" then you know you are truly free.

I am glad you posted this.


Do you mean before or after the officer says "Only after you answer my question first"




posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by badgerprints

Originally posted by violet
The driver was being difficult and acting suspicious.
What makes him so special he shouldn't have to answer the question of if he was a citizen?

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I would ask the same question of non-citizens.
Why are citizens held to strict law enforcement standards and non-citizens federally mandated to be set free even if they are in the country illegally?


Everybody is asked this question. It's asked at both your borders. If you aren't a citizen then you need to provide documents showing you are free to cross the border. They already ran your plates as you approached, which isn't something you can stop with a lawyer. It's just a question and you have the option of just nodding your head yes.

Why do you assume all non citizens are illegal?
Some of us are legal immigrants.
I don't live in the USA. I'm not from Mexico if that's who your comment about illegal immigrants was about.

With that said I can assure you your border guards are complete assholes. Have been for years.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by violet

Originally posted by badgerprints

Originally posted by violet
The driver was being difficult and acting suspicious.
What makes him so special he shouldn't have to answer the question of if he was a citizen?

.

I would ask the same question of non-citizens.
Why are citizens held to strict law enforcement standards and non-citizens federally mandated to be set free even if they are in the country illegally?


Everybody is asked this question. It's asked at both your borders. If you aren't a citizen then you need to provide documents showing you are free to cross the border. They already ran your plates as you approached, which isn't something you can stop with a lawyer. It's just a question and you have the option of just nodding your head yes.

Why do you assume all non citizens are illegal?
Some of us are legal immigrants.
I don't live in the USA. I'm not from Mexico if that's who your comment about illegal immigrants was about.

With that said I can assure you your border guards are complete assholes. Have been for years.


So well said that all I can offer is a thank you and a star.

Peace



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 05:48 AM
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How many billions do we spend involving illegal immigrants? How many crimes are committed in Texas by illegals?

We need to protect our boarders. Answer a simple question. Get on your way. I'd like to know what company he was driving for and file a complaint against him for possibly bringing illegals into this country.

You wanna fly in the air? Get groped and naked for a camera. You wanna cross the boarder? Answer a yes or no question.
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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by AmateuRN

You wanna fly in the air? Get groped and naked for a camera. You wanna cross the boarder? Answer a yes or no question.
edit on 22-10-2012 by AmateuRN because: added crap


You sound like a perfect little slave. We shouldn't have to do any of those things.





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