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Children to be taught 'heterosexuality not the norm' in Australian schools project

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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by deepankarm

Originally posted by mc4denmark

Originally posted by DarknStormy
reply to post by OpenEars123
 


I'm not an expert on the subject of Homosexuality... Its sort of like converting to Islam.. not good for you.


Well, you are no expert, you got that right.

Its still not a choice you make, it is still created in your DNA
source pl???


discovermagazine.com...

Whether or not a gay gene, a set of gay genes, or some other biological mechanism is ever found, one thing is clear: The environment a child grows up in has nothing to do with what makes most gay men gay. Two of the most convincing studies have proved conclusively that sexual orientation in men has a genetic cause.




posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:24 AM
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and as we all know, the only benefit or value of anything is to produce children
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you made this up.

rest is garbage.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:26 AM
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Why do the religiously insane always jump into comparing gay people to paedophiles? It's like their last resort when all other insults and attacks have failed


So now you will insult me without reading all my posts..and a huge assumption on your part that it is my last resort.

I have the right to disagree with the sexual preferences of many who are seemingly straight..or not homophobic.




Homophobia is a disease in our countries because of ignorant people who grew up with ignorant parents, almost always highly religious too. It is a societal phenomenon widely seen in Christian and Islamic nations, and yet doesn't exist at all in many remote social groups where the disease of Christianity never reached.


Oh I see, so what is the disease called when I don't want my heterosexual kids practicing the sexual preferences of "wife swapping". What if I never cracked a bible in my life, but my gut still tells me it is wrong..do I still have the right to disagree with the sexual preference..without being called some sort of "group sex phobic" by those that enjoy it ?




I don't know why I bother sometimes, I really don't. It's like debating with a psychiatric patient slamming themselves against a padded wall over and over again. They do not listen to facts or reason, they just pay attention to the BS voices in their heads.


The very same could be said about you. The rude bullying and comments , the over the top accusations of us wanting to line up all homosexuals for killing...

all for what ? ...because we dare to differ on what we think is appropriate sexual relations and preferences ?




You forgot to add religiously insane.


Way to be exactly what you are accusing of others of, and maybe far worse. How pathetically sad that you can't see what a hateful person you are, and how you resort to bullying tactics to get others to agree with you.




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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by H1ght3chHippie
 


No can be "turned" homosexual, if they like girls they will like girls, if the chemicals in their minds tell them to likes boys they will like boys.

Chemicals in my head made me attracted to females. I had no choice in that.


Children growing up in same sex families are 4-10 times more likely to become involved in homo sex in every study that I have ever encountered. Men and women addicted to pornography will progress to harder and harder porn, including watching men on men and women on women, regardless of their own gender. Homosexual men, in several studies, report hundreds of partners. Why do you think these things happen when none of the examples has anything to do with genetics? Sex is a lust, one of the most powerful emotions that exist that nearly all of us can agree on. "Teaching high school students that gender and sexuality are ‘fluid’ concepts" is indoctrination of the state's view on morality, and it is no different than the incessant sodomy lyrics in a lot of music today creating a population base that now accepts anal sex and gay/lesbianism as something "cool and hip" to experiment with. The truth is that every mystery religion includes sodomy as a ritual, and this little known and understood truth should also be explained to every parent of these children involved in this experiment on social engineering. Indoctrination and propaganda changes beliefs and attitudes through deceit.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by WhoKnows100

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by H1ght3chHippie
 


No can be "turned" homosexual, if they like girls they will like girls, if the chemicals in their minds tell them to likes boys they will like boys.

Chemicals in my head made me attracted to females. I had no choice in that.


Children growing up in same sex families are 4-10 times more likely to become involved in homo sex in every study that I have ever encountered. Men and women addicted to pornography will progress to harder and harder porn, including watching men on men and women on women, regardless of their own gender. Homosexual men, in several studies, report hundreds of partners. Why do you think these things happen when none of the examples has anything to do with genetics? Sex is a lust, one of the most powerful emotions that exist that nearly all of us can agree on. "Teaching high school students that gender and sexuality are ‘fluid’ concepts" is indoctrination of the state's view on morality, and it is no different than the incessant sodomy lyrics in a lot of music today creating a population base that now accepts anal sex and gay/lesbianism as something "cool and hip" to experiment with. The truth is that every mystery religion includes sodomy as a ritual, and this little known and understood truth should also be explained to every parent of these children involved in this experiment on social engineering. Indoctrination and propaganda changes beliefs and attitudes through deceit.


Not true

discovermagazine.com...

Whether or not a gay gene, a set of gay genes, or some other biological mechanism is ever found, one thing is clear: The environment a child grows up in has nothing to do with what makes most gay men gay. Two of the most convincing studies have proved conclusively that sexual orientation in men has a genetic cause.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:32 AM
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I don't think it matters what you tell children, regarding gay people.

Let's be clear. You cannot hear or learn that being gay is normal, and subsequently "turn gay". No one chooses to be gay and no one he is heterosexual will change their sexual preference on the basis of polls or current consensus.

A man needs and erection to have intercourse. If you're not attracted to men, you cannot have gay sex no matter how hard you try. It doesn't work that way. So I don't think it matters. You can tell children that gay is awesome and it won't matter. The kids will still be attracted to the opposite sex if they were born that way. One cannot learn to be gay.



 
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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by WhoKnows100
"Teaching high school students that gender and sexuality are ‘fluid’ concepts" is indoctrination of the state's view on morality, and it is no different than the incessant sodomy lyrics in a lot of music today creating a population base that now accepts anal sex and gay/lesbianism as something "cool and hip" to experiment with.

So, rather than teaching kids that people are different and shouldn't be judged because of their sexuality, they should be taught to hate everybody who doesn't follow the norms of some Middle Eastern religion?



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by Wonderer2012
I for one am sick and tired of seeing this agenda playing out. I'm not homophobic in any way whatsoever, I know gay people, but it is wrong to promote the idea that homosexuality is normal. We know it is not right, it is not natural. I may come across as contradictory with that but I honestly do not mind if someone is gay, but at the same time you cannot 'educate' children into thinking it is normal. We all know it is not normal and it almost certainly is not natural.


You are mistaken.

nat·u·ral [nach-er-uhl, nach-ruhl]
adjective
1. existing in or formed by nature (opposed to artificial)

Plenty of examples of homosexuality in nature.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:35 AM
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you provided no proof.
the environment factor can't be simulated kiddo.
the writer has used incomplete study as evidence.



The environment a child grows up in has nothing to do with what makes most gay men gay.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by WhoKnows100

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by H1ght3chHippie
 


No can be "turned" homosexual, if they like girls they will like girls, if the chemicals in their minds tell them to likes boys they will like boys.

Chemicals in my head made me attracted to females. I had no choice in that.


Children growing up in same sex families are 4-10 times more likely to become involved in homo sex in every study that I have ever encountered. Men and women addicted to pornography will progress to harder and harder porn, including watching men on men and women on women, regardless of their own gender. Homosexual men, in several studies, report hundreds of partners. Why do you think these things happen when none of the examples has anything to do with genetics? Sex is a lust, one of the most powerful emotions that exist that nearly all of us can agree on. "Teaching high school students that gender and sexuality are ‘fluid’ concepts" is indoctrination of the state's view on morality, and it is no different than the incessant sodomy lyrics in a lot of music today creating a population base that now accepts anal sex and gay/lesbianism as something "cool and hip" to experiment with. The truth is that every mystery religion includes sodomy as a ritual, and this little known and understood truth should also be explained to every parent of these children involved in this experiment on social engineering. Indoctrination and propaganda changes beliefs and attitudes through deceit.


Interesting post with much truth in it.

I'm not sure if you consider Christianity as a "mystery religion", but I do know that they absolutely do not practice sodomy as a ritual in what I have been taught. There maybe some within the organization who secretly practice this ritual, but they know that they are not following the teachings of the bible, if they do so.


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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by bobs_uruncle
 


What makes gays so special?

Not a thing. Except they are frequent targets of bullying.


Isn't almost everyone when it comes to the more common forms of bullying from government, etc.? Then on top of that there's the gravity challenged, the ugly, the arrogant, the stupid's, the know-it-all's, different races (breeds of human), different religious persuasions, plus any target of any corporate disinformation program or people organizing unions, etc. etc., it's a long list ;-) Gays are involved in a very small percentage of the bullying problem and have a disproportionate amount of "airtime" allocated to them for some ridiculous reason.


What bothers me a little is that roughly 2% or 3% of the population are dictating the rules to the other 98% of the population (tail wagging the dog) and they are using extortion (hate crime propaganda and laws) to do it, isn't that bullying?

What rules?

Oh, hate rules/laws, employment quota rules, immigration quota rules, reverse discrimination rules, etc.


If they want to stop bullying, which I agree with, stop it unilaterally.

Good idea. That's the main drive of the program.


No actually, that's not the plan. The plan is selectively targeting groups, it is not unilateral. It's do as I say, not do as I do.

Cheers - Dave
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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by mc4denmark
Whether or not a gay gene, a set of gay genes, or some other biological mechanism is ever found, one thing is clear: The environment a child grows up in has nothing to do with what makes most gay men gay. Two of the most convincing studies have proved conclusively that sexual orientation in men has a genetic cause.

I think, a significant link has been shown to exist between homosexuality and being the 2nd or 3rd born son, i.e. first born sons are far less likely to be homosexuals..



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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As mentioned above, children going through puberty are learning about themselves and developing, education should not be indoctrinating them to think homosexuality is normal.


Lets stop and suppose for a second your child is gay. Yeah yeah, i know, your kid would never "catch the gay" but lets pretend.

wouldn't you want your child to be educated as such as to not feel like an outcast? Don't you think teaching tolerance is good?

I agree, trying to pretend that homosexuality is the norm is insane, and has nothing to do with this program at all, because it's clearly insane to try to preach that.

It exists, and has since the dawn of time. But lets not kid ourselves..

Gay people come from straight parents. It's not a mental disorder, it's not a sickness. It is what it is, and teaching tolerance ensures that, at the very least, a few generations from now it won't matter.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by FlySolo
You would never see a hetero parade with guys pulling down their girlfriend's pants or have her expose her breasts like they do with the gay parades.
I just don't get it. They want to be equal but when they get their parade, they act like they're in the gay bar.

[/rant]


Ummm, have you ever been to Mardi Gras? Or anyplace during Spring Break? Lots of heteros doing some pretty nasty things in public.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by mc4denmark

Originally posted by WhoKnows100

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by H1ght3chHippie
 


No can be "turned" homosexual, if they like girls they will like girls, if the chemicals in their minds tell them to likes boys they will like boys.

Chemicals in my head made me attracted to females. I had no choice in that.


Children growing up in same sex families are 4-10 times more likely to become involved in homo sex in every study that I have ever encountered. Men and women addicted to pornography will progress to harder and harder porn, including watching men on men and women on women, regardless of their own gender. Homosexual men, in several studies, report hundreds of partners. Why do you think these things happen when none of the examples has anything to do with genetics? Sex is a lust, one of the most powerful emotions that exist that nearly all of us can agree on. "Teaching high school students that gender and sexuality are ‘fluid’ concepts" is indoctrination of the state's view on morality, and it is no different than the incessant sodomy lyrics in a lot of music today creating a population base that now accepts anal sex and gay/lesbianism as something "cool and hip" to experiment with. The truth is that every mystery religion includes sodomy as a ritual, and this little known and understood truth should also be explained to every parent of these children involved in this experiment on social engineering. Indoctrination and propaganda changes beliefs and attitudes through deceit.


Not true

discovermagazine.com...

Whether or not a gay gene, a set of gay genes, or some other biological mechanism is ever found, one thing is clear: The environment a child grows up in has nothing to do with what makes most gay men gay. Two of the most convincing studies have proved conclusively that sexual orientation in men has a genetic cause.
stop posting lies.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by deepankarm
reply to post by mc4denmark
 


you provided no proof.
the environment factor can't be simulated kiddo.
the writer has used incomplete study as evidence.



The environment a child grows up in has nothing to do with what makes most gay men gay.


It states that the two most extensive test, indicates that sexuality is chosen by the genes.

Can you please show anything that proves otherwise or are you just throwing your own word in as a fact?



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
I don't think it matters what you tell children, regarding gay people.

Let's be clear. You cannot hear or learn that being gay is normal, and subsequently "turn gay". No one chooses to be gay and no one he is heterosexual will change their sexual preference on the basis of polls or current consensus.

A man needs and erection to have intercourse. If you're not attracted to men, you cannot have gay sex no matter how hard you try. It doesn't work that way. So I don't think it matters. You can tell children that gay is awesome and it won't matter. The kids will still be attracted to the opposite sex if they were born that way. One cannot learn to be gay.



 
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That ridiculous...do you realize how many Bi- sexual s are out there.. ? There are millions who are attracted to both sexes. Some are simply attracted to sex, in whatever form they can get it.

There are some who won't have sex with anything other than a plastic doll as well. Were they born that way ?
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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by deepankarm

Originally posted by mc4denmark

Originally posted by WhoKnows100

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by H1ght3chHippie
 


No can be "turned" homosexual, if they like girls they will like girls, if the chemicals in their minds tell them to likes boys they will like boys.

Chemicals in my head made me attracted to females. I had no choice in that.


Children growing up in same sex families are 4-10 times more likely to become involved in homo sex in every study that I have ever encountered. Men and women addicted to pornography will progress to harder and harder porn, including watching men on men and women on women, regardless of their own gender. Homosexual men, in several studies, report hundreds of partners. Why do you think these things happen when none of the examples has anything to do with genetics? Sex is a lust, one of the most powerful emotions that exist that nearly all of us can agree on. "Teaching high school students that gender and sexuality are ‘fluid’ concepts" is indoctrination of the state's view on morality, and it is no different than the incessant sodomy lyrics in a lot of music today creating a population base that now accepts anal sex and gay/lesbianism as something "cool and hip" to experiment with. The truth is that every mystery religion includes sodomy as a ritual, and this little known and understood truth should also be explained to every parent of these children involved in this experiment on social engineering. Indoctrination and propaganda changes beliefs and attitudes through deceit.


Not true

discovermagazine.com...

Whether or not a gay gene, a set of gay genes, or some other biological mechanism is ever found, one thing is clear: The environment a child grows up in has nothing to do with what makes most gay men gay. Two of the most convincing studies have proved conclusively that sexual orientation in men has a genetic cause.
stop posting lies.



Funny fact... It is not a lie



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by FlySolo
You would never see a hetero parade with guys pulling down their girlfriend's pants or have her expose her breasts like they do with the gay parades.
I just don't get it. They want to be equal but when they get their parade, they act like they're in the gay bar.

[/rant]


Ummm, have you ever been to Mardi Gras? Or anyplace during Spring Break? Lots of heteros doing some pretty nasty things in public.


Very good point...which illustrates the point, that we should all have the choice as to what sort of sexual behaviors we think are appropriate and healthy. ...and the state does not have the right to force feed their opinions on the matter in the educational systems.
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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by Wonderer2012

Children to be taught 'heterosexuality not the norm' in Australian schools project




I bet not. The headline itself screams "NOT TRUE!"



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