Children to be taught 'heterosexuality not the norm' in Australian schools project

Devine quoted Upper house MP Fred Nile who called the program “propaganda” and asked the government to defund the program.

$250,000 going towards this program?

“I’m totally opposed to the brainwashing of high school students, especially when they are going through puberty,” Nile said. “Homosexuals at most make up 2 percent of the population - I don’t know why the education department would give priority to promoting this.

I agree.. Seems rather stupid.

“We will have more confused teenagers than ever…children should be allowed to develop themselves,” he said.

Exactly.

Originally posted by vendettent
I think this is a futile debate. I was raised Christian and believed being gay was wrong for most of my life because of what my church said but my parents always told me to be respectful and that there still people like everyone else.
Up until 13 I always thought I liked girls but It was more like a friendly thing. I got a girlfriend when I was 12 but only did it because I thought it was the normal thing to do but I didn't actually like her.

When I hit puberty I started to find my self aroused by same sex and it terrified me and I tried to change myself to straight and even tried to look at women in a sexual way but it never worked. I didn't want to go to hell (according to my religion) but I couldn't change it. I told my own friend who I've known forever Nd she said basednon how I was when I was younger she already thought.

I grew up thinking I was a freak and I still hate myself but I know it can't change.nine think its silly that everyone in this thread is so upset. The schools are just saying that being gay is something that just happens to you and you shouldent beat yourself up over it. I guess lots of people would but I certainly would not like kids being raised hating gays or gays hateing themselvess. This leads to serious mental issues Nd even suicide. I have terrible mental issues because of my childhood. I think everyone should just backoff? Do you think God wants you to make all these children who have no choice over there sexuality to hare themselves? This program isbt going to turn kids gay it is just going to stop them from going though a terrible mentil turmoil. How do you know that in bible times gay sex was used for thrill and to avoid pregnancy. What if people in this day and age just have a change in brain chemistry and can't help themselves? Im sure god wouldn't damn someone who wanted to ffollow him but were told by other Christians that they can't when they hit puberty because of something they coouldent control? I know I was told that and I thought I couldn't follow him anymore because I could never change my sexuality
I looked past the hate and jjust prayed and god brought me to peace. It is so clear beg gay isn't a choice. Who would chose to be hated by so many people. If being gay results from conditions as a child then why would god getanangry for something that was the parents fault. Why can't people just leave gays alone? Gays obviously go to school and they shouldent grow up thinking there an abomination that will just lead to a terrible life or death. I'm sure if there was a magic pill to make you instantly straight most gays would take it. I know I dont want to ve gay but I'm stuck with it.

Even though i don't believe in God, that was an honest and heartfelt post that your fellow religious folk should learn something from.

Animals are being true to their nature ! The question is , are we being true to our nature?

I DETEST this term "Homophobia". "Phobia" in general has been used as a coy attempt to villainize anything that you can tack 'Phobia" to. There are precepts in this world that are Basic to the Human Condition. There are 'Natural' practices inherent in Mans/Womans physiology, and no amount of belief to the contrary will change that.
So your attempt to categorize something with the term phobia as your platform will be ignored here. It's word smithing, pure and simple, just mouth boogie. It's about time the rest of you take a stand as well, and don't accept that those casting 'phobia at you, in any structure. The dislike of something is Not reason to attempt to label that person in such a way so as to gain an advantage in your oratory.

reply to post by Plotus


Homophobia fits quite nicely.

Because you all are AFRAID to teach children to be tolerant. Phobia is as phobia does.

Also, name one argument against homosexuality that doesn't stem from some sort of fear.

"I don't hate gays but they should keep it in the bedroom" ---- Fear of seeing homosexual relations. Fear that children will see it.

"I don't think gays should marry" -- Fear that the government might let some people benefit the exact same way you do. Fear that "Family Values" will be deminished.

Etc., Etc.....seriously name ONE

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by Wonderer2012

 

I unflagged this. Should have read more. So, the title is misleading when it says, that heterosexuality is not the NORM. Ie. majority. That is what norm means.

Instead, what the schools are teaching is that people are equal regardless of sexuality.

OF COURSE THEY ARE. AND THEY SHOULD TEACH THIS.

so tell me if homosexuality is equal to heterosexuality ????
and what is the problem with you pro gays, no one is talking about homosexuals but about homosexuality.

Originally posted by HandyDandy
reply to post by Plotus

 

Homophobia fits quite nicely.

Because you all are AFRAID to teach children to be tolerant. Phobia is as phobia does.

Also, name one argument against homosexuality that doesn't stem from some sort of fear.

"I don't hate gays but they should keep it in the bedroom" ---- Fear of seeing homosexual relations. Fear that children will see it.

"I don't think gays should marry" -- Fear that the government might let some people benefit the exact same way you do. Fear that "Family Values" will be deminished.

Etc., Etc.....seriously name ONE

edit on 22-10-2012 by HandyDandy because: (no reason given)

that's dumb.
i oppose the notion that homosexuality is equal to heterosexuality while in reality it has no value to the society.
therefore no benefits to the union of two homos.

Originally posted by HandyDandy

Also, name one argument against homosexuality that doesn't stem from some sort of fear.

"I don't hate gays but they should keep it in the bedroom" ---- Fear of seeing homosexual relations. Fear that children will see it.

I don't want children to see homosexuals doing homosexual things that should be kept in the bedroom.

I fear that you do.

Originally posted by deepankarm
that's dumb.
i oppose the notion that homosexuality is equal to heterosexuality while in reality it has no value to the society.
therefore no benefits to the union of two homos.

No value to society?

What would happen if those 10% were to procreate like the breeders?

Originally posted by SOLIDSNAKE101
Animals are being true to their nature ! The question is , are we being true to our nature?

do you know your nature ???/

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by HandyDandy

Also, name one argument against homosexuality that doesn't stem from some sort of fear.

"I don't hate gays but they should keep it in the bedroom" ---- Fear of seeing homosexual relations. Fear that children will see it.

I don't want children to see homosexuals doing homosexual things that should be kept in the bedroom.

I fear that you do.

Do you also fear a heterosexual couple kissing in front of your children? I fear that you don't.

reply to post by deepankarm


gosh, you're entirely correct!
Homosexual union does not produce children
and as we all know, the only benefit or value of anything is to produce children
so we should really just stop accepting this nonsense....
while we're at it, let's forget all that trivial nonsense like the arts and sciences
since they're just getting int he way of the babymaking.
though wait, now you've got me thinking
what's the purpose of all those babies? they're only going to grow old and die like us
sure, they'll make a bunch more babies
but all they will do is make more babies
all of whom will one day wither in the ground
and eventually entropy will take it's toll
the stars will go out
and the last atoms will radiate their final charges
there's no point to anything
soooo
why don't we try and get along while we have a chance?

Originally posted by DarknStormy
reply to post by OpenEars123

 

I'm not an expert on the subject of Homosexuality... Its sort of like converting to Islam.. not good for you.

Well, you are no expert, you got that right.

Its still not a choice you make, it is still created in your DNA

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by H1ght3chHippie

 

No can be "turned" homosexual, if they like girls they will like girls, if the chemicals in their minds tell them to likes boys they will like boys.

Chemicals in my head made me attracted to females. I had no choice in that.

You are quite correct. You should look into how certain compounds found in plastic bottles resemble the hormone estrogen. I can turn you into anything with the right chemicals. I can make that you grow boobs or a beard.

Tell me again no-one can be turned into a homo. Of course it is possible. Not only by using hormones but also through indoctrination on a daily base.

Originally posted by DarknStormy
reply to post by OpenEars123

 

I'm not an expert on the subject of Homosexuality... Its sort of like converting to Islam.. not good for you.

And thats is why, it should be teached in class, not at some based parent with a false understanding of the human evoluton

Originally posted by HandyDandy

Originally posted by deepankarm
that's dumb.
i oppose the notion that homosexuality is equal to heterosexuality while in reality it has no value to the society.
therefore no benefits to the union of two homos.

No value to society?

What would happen if those 10% were to procreate like the breeders?

even dumber....
nothing will happen the homo population is around 5 percent .
population doesn't depend upon breeding or non breeding of gays but of heteros.
do some maths and use some common sense.......

and you are implying that procreation isn't valuable???
i think you have internalized heterophobia.

reply to post by Wonderer2012


We do not "know" that homosexuality is not normal. This is an opinion, and what are you basing that opinion on?

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Wonderer2012

 

Oh for crying out loud, you can't be seriously believing kids can be turned gay

I come from a liberal background, but when I was 13 it wasn't as if I thought to myself "mhhhhh, should I go for dudes or chicks?". Being tolerant versus homosexuals doesn't turn one gay

Seriously, do we still live in the 60s?

Kids are just basically blank slates, they can literally be thought anything. Yes you can teach and condition whole generations of kids to be gay even if they are not born like that. And a big part of the reason why you are heterosexual and believe the things you believe in is because you have been conditioned to be that way.

However if over time and generations you were conditioned to be another way, you would be that way. Look at the case of feral children who have been risen by themselves or by animals who grew up to think they were those animals...So why do people have such a hard time believing that a great part of what you are is literally just conditioned into you? and children can literally be conditioned to believe and think that they are anything. Its simple really and humans have been doing it for ages in themselves and in everything else such as the pets they have around and livestock used for farming practices, all of that is but ultimately just different forms of conditioning and conforming species of animal to be certain ways. And what is the norm is usually just what has become the most prevalent, so ultimately anything can pretty much become the norm.

Personally I don't see why schools would stress or try to bring one or the other into the forefront, and should just let kids decide for themselves what they want to be without all the pressure they always try to instal. But such matters do not ultimately matter as the human race and the male female duality of it in time will become obsolete as more powerful and natural forces take there course and go into action, but hey whatever floats peoples boats till then.

Originally posted by mc4denmark

Originally posted by DarknStormy
reply to post by OpenEars123

 

I'm not an expert on the subject of Homosexuality... Its sort of like converting to Islam.. not good for you.

Well, you are no expert, you got that right.

Its still not a choice you make, it is still created in your DNA

source pl???

Originally posted by deepankarm
nothing will happen the homo population is around 5 percent .

So, nothing would happen if those 5% breed like heterosexuals? Can you do math? And you call me dumb?

population doesn't depend upon breeding or non breeding of gays but of heteros.

What a stupid, dumb, retarded, idiotic statement. The whole point was that gays don't breed.

do some maths and use some common sense.......

I can say the same to you. Your statements are retarded.