Children to be taught 'heterosexuality not the norm' in Australian schools project

reply to post by MrXYZ


Most people accept homosexuals anyway... Whats the idea attacking our children with the crap? I sent my two daughter to learn how to read, write, learn maths etc, not to learn about accepting homosexuals and caring for their rights.

reply to post by Phage

No. But I know enough not to believe a biased report about it.

You said no.. you don't know what the program really is teaching, yet you will argue in favor of it, assuming it is about what you think they are trying to teach ?

I think there is nothing wrong with teaching children that because someone is different it does not mean they are morally corrupt.

By that statement you are endorsing little Billy's parents that think it is totally fine to urinate on someone for sexual excitement , that they indeed are not morally corrupt, just because they have "different" sexual preferences, and little Billy should not be persecuted for emulating the "different" sexual preferences of his parents.

I will stand up for anyone persecuted for their beliefs unless those beliefs diminish someone simply because they are different.

I guess you're ok with your daughter going to little Billy's birthday party after all.

Originally posted by Wonderer2012
I for one am sick and tired of seeing this agenda playing out.

If people are gay, then let them be so but don't indoctrinate young children into making them think it is right and normal.

Brainwashing kids that homosexuality is equal to heterosexuality is wrong.

Letting gay people do their own thing and being tolerant of their alternative lifestyle is one thing. Letting gay pressure groups brainwash our kids at school is another thing all together.

Wow, how obtuse can you be?
even in the context of the OP article, [which we should all by now know is largely irrelevant to the real world]
it is clear that this initiative is about a decent quality of life for thinking, breathing people....
17 pages of arguing about the semantics of the word "normal"? really?


and all our old friends! The Gay Agenda, pedophilia, bestiality, #goingstraighttohell.......
the next time i see one of these threads i'm going to find a bottle of alcohol and play the gaygenda drinking game... i haven't figured out the rules yet but i have a feeling i'll be unconscious by the fifth page.
yet something makes me think my faculties will still be sharper than a scarily large proportion of our membership.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by WhisperingWinds

 

Have you?

No. But I know enough not to believe a biased report about it.

So, once again, because you personally believe it is morally ok to be homosexual , then the state has a right to teach that to ALL children, whether their parents believe in it or not.

I think there is nothing wrong with teaching children that because someone is different it does not mean they are morally corrupt.

Because you personally don't believe that the bible could be true, do you then agree that the state has the right to start teaching that the bible is totally false , and all morals based on the bible are pure fabrication ?

I don't think the state has the right to do that. BTW, I don't happen to believe the Bible is anything more than a bunch of fables but I don't believe that all of the morals of the bible are baseless. The golden rule in particular.

Will you stand up for those who get bullied into leaving their morals at the door of the school ?

I will stand up for anyone persecuted for their beliefs unless those beliefs diminish someone simply because they are different.

edit on 10/22/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)

no one is talking about someone but about something.
cheap emotional tactics is all you people got.

Originally posted by WhisperingWinds
reply to post by Rubicant13

 

WW, what does this have to do with homosexuality being taught in schools as being equally acceptable in schools? Pedophiles come in all types and a lot are not homosexual that prey on children. All pedophiles should be punished regardless of sexual orientation only because they prey on children. Their sexual orientation should play no role in that punishment whatsoever - only the crime they committed against the children they preyed upon.

It has everything to do with it rubicant.

They will argue the very same "scientific logic", and are already, that they did not ask to be born with that sexual preference, and they have a right to not be persecuted for it.

There are pedophiles in jail fighting for the rights of children to have sex , and that if they are "hard wired " to be of that sexual orientation, and children want to be willing participants in a sexual act, that no one has the "moral" high ground to say it isn't right.

After all.. Who is to judge how they were scientifically created, and who is to judge what children should and shouldn't do willingly, according to them.

Its total crap.. but I guarantee you rube..as weird as 50 years ago people thinking that homosexuals would have the right someday to marry, this issue is what is coming up next..on the agendas of tptb.

It is based on the very same "scientific logic"....and the freedom to follow your "natural" sexual urges.

They will use the simple argument that you used in one of your posts..

Separating people based on sexual differences is as wrong as doing so for any other reasons.

edit on 22-10-2012 by WhisperingWinds because: (no reason given)

I don't believe my argument is any less valid, WW. Not all people that are homosexual turn into pedophiliac monsters. That line of thinking is absolutely ridiculous and absurd. You pay for the crime of such an act. Not being what you are if you are homosexual. *facepalm*

Originally posted by SerialVelocity

Oh, and thanks for 'tolerating' the gay community, I am sure they appreciate it.

How about 'tolerating' the fact that most parents do not want their kids brainwashed at school that homosexuality is equal to heterosexuality?

Originally posted by RothchildRancor
self preservation and the preservation of one's race are the two most prominent survival instincts in any species of living being.

Homosexuality goes against this.

Not homophobic, go be gay if you want, but I consider it to be a mental disorder.

So do I & I dont want strangers teaching my children about homosexuality either.

reply to post by WhisperingWinds

By that statement you are endorsing little Billy's parents that think it is totally fine to urinate on someone for sexual excitement

No. You are talking about behaviour. Behaviour which is unacceptable. It is also unacceptable for Billy to hit someone with a brick.

I guess you're ok with your daughter going to little Billy's birthday party after all.

Not if Billy ties up little girls...or little boys.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by WhisperingWinds


Kids need to be taught to care about other humans, but that does not have to include accepting their sexual behaviors as ok.

It doesn't need to include teaching them that their sexual behaviours are not OK either.

In fact why does it need to involve sexuality at all??

Given that homosexuality does not actually affect anyone who is not homosexual, what actual business is it of anyone else's in the first place?

edit on 21-10-2012 by Aloysius the Gaul because: (no reason given)

That is exactly the point! This should not be taught in schools at all. Period. Teach basic human biology, not sexual preference (or anything related to that). Teach them about VD, and how unreliable birth control can be. Leave the rest entirely out of schools. Teach that ANY bullying is wrong, not just that bullying against those with different sexual preferences is wrong. We can teach kids that they should not bully someone that is different, that they can be nice to a person without necessarily approving of everything that person does, and that this is alright. We do not have to approve of a person to tolerate their private actions. We do not have to approve of a person's every action to like that person. We can still be polite to them.

So there we agree; leave the sexual preferences totally out of the schools. Let the parents teach the kids what they want in that regard, since that is an issue usually tied up with various belief systems.

reply to post by Rubicant13

I don't believe my argument is any less valid, WW. Not all people that are homosexual turn into pedophiliac monsters. That line of thinking is absolutely ridiculous and absurd. You pay for the crime of such an act. Not being what you are if you are homosexual. *facepalm*

OF COURSE THEY DON"T ALL TURN INTO PEDOPHILAC MONSTERS RUBE !!!

*facepalm*

Do you actually think that is what I was trying to say?

I already said in another post that some gays are persecuted by other gays, because they don't care to play the "sexual" games that others do, and they feel slighted and judged by their very own "sexually orientated" group, and those "sexual games" have NOTHING to do with children.

It happens in heterosexual circles as well.

I was simply stating the fact that scientists use the logic that homosexuals were "born that way", therefore should not be discriminated against and thought of as "unnatural"..is the very SAME "scientific logic" that is being used to justify pedophile urges, and why they should not be discriminated against.

Do you get where I am coming from ?

Because in no way have I said that homosexuals are all pedophile monsters, though some are, as well as there are heterosexuals who are also pedo's.

I hope I am making myself clear..

reply to post by DarknStormy

So do I & I dont want strangers teaching my children about homosexuality either.

How about the other kids at school? The ones that harass the queers...or the pigs...or the nerds...or the uglies. Because those kids are there and those kids will be teaching yours.

reply to post by WhisperingWinds


this might be my favourite post yet!
are you genuinely implying that urinating on someone for mutual sexual pleasure is morally corrupt?


.....moreover, am i to take it that if your daughter goes to some kid that isn't Billy's party and he attempts to emulate his [exclusively vanilla missionary position] parent's behaviour by forcing himself on her that would be acceptable? because Good Old Fashioned Red Blooded Heterosexual Sexy Sex is morally superior?

Personally I think its great...

Australia has gorgeous women... so well... you do the math.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Wonderer2012
I for one am sick and tired of seeing this agenda playing out.

If people are gay, then let them be so but don't indoctrinate young children into making them think it is right and normal.

Brainwashing kids that homosexuality is equal to heterosexuality is wrong.

Letting gay people do their own thing and being tolerant of their alternative lifestyle is one thing. Letting gay pressure groups brainwash our kids at school is another thing all together.

edit on 22-10-2012 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)

star for you sir.
if homosexuality is equal to heterosexuality, then it concludes that reproduction and thereby children are of no value.
it's not surprising that society is increasingly neglecting children.

reply to post by decepticonLaura

Wow, how obtuse can you be? even in the context of the OP article, [which we should all by now know is largely irrelevant to the real world] it is clear that this initiative is about a decent quality of life for thinking, breathing people.... 17 pages of arguing about the semantics of the word "normal"? really? and all our old friends! The Gay Agenda, pedophilia, bestiality, #goingstraighttohell....... the next time i see one of these threads i'm going to find a bottle of alcohol and play the gaygenda drinking game... i haven't figured out the rules yet but i have a feeling i'll be unconscious by the fifth page. yet something makes me think my faculties will still be sharper than a scarily large proportion of our membership.

something tells me you would be wrong..but go ahead and give it your best shot.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by SerialVelocity

Oh, and thanks for 'tolerating' the gay community, I am sure they appreciate it.

How about 'tolerating' the fact that most parents do not want their kids brainwashed at school that homosexuality is equal to heterosexuality?

there are times and places (not just in the past) that most parents within a culture would not want their children 'brainwashed' that people of another race were equal, or another relegion, or another class, or another gender etc etc etc

just because the majority are bigots does not mean they are not bigots

(this is my one and only post on what i consider to be a nasty thread )

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes

Teach basic human biology, not sexual preference (or anything related to that). Teach them about VD, and how unreliable birth control can be.

You really think you can separate the two? You think that children don't notice differences? What about the children who are gay? What do you tell them?

Teach that ANY bullying is wrong

That is what is being taught.

reply to post by WhisperingWinds


Well, its good to know that was not implied. I apologize in that manner. I just don't see I guess why a child being of different orientation should be treated differently. Those kinds of things are actually make pedophiliacs become what they are due to being made to feel inferior due to society treating them as less than others. Its a vicious cycle.

Originally posted by Phage

Originally posted by MountainLaurel

Wouldn't it make more sence for the schools to create programs againt bullying of anykind? Why would this program be so fucused on an issue of sexuality to kids?

Why do you think that sexuality is the focus?

My take on it is, because young minds are impressionable and are being opened for experimentation and opening youngsters minds to all types of sexuality at such a young age, will with out a doubt, have a negative affect on some children,who would have been better off not being opened to it at all.

All of this,instead of harder line teaching that bullying is wrong,which homosexuals already come under.