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Pretty sure the subject is perpetual motion taking place on a terrestrial level
Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by ken10
The OP doesn't even know what goalposts they were aiming at to begin with. Stating that nuclear force is somehow perpetual motion, but then linking us to perpetual motion machines, which are two entirely different things.
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by hawkiye
instead of bleating about your alledged " anti perpetual motion conspiracy " - here is an idea - show us a device that actually works
But thanks for illustrating the conspiracy and running your programming that perpetual motion is impossible...
Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
If something lasts 20 years on its own power I'd call it perpetual.
Originally posted by MeesterB
I kinda get what you're going for with the whole "perpetual" thing, but it's just moving the goal post and calling it a break through that proves science wrong.
It's kind of funny that you are equating people who quote scientific laws with a cult. Perpetual motion machine people are the true looneys because they are obsessed with getting an unobtainable outcome instead of using proven science to get as much energy as they could ever need.
One can accomplish much by living in the real world, and there is nothing close minded or shameful about it.
Just think of ways to harness the energy given off by the sun. It'll be more fruitful than chasing ghosts.
Its a good thing looneys like Tesla and others decided to chase some ghosts or you would be reading a book by candle light right now...
1850 Joseph W. Swan began working on a light bulb using carbonized paper filaments
1860 Swan obtained a UK patent covering a partial vacuum, carbon filament incandescent lamp
1877 Edward Weston forms Weston Dynamo Machine Company, in Newark, New Jersey.
1878 Thomas Edison founded the Edison Electric Light Company
1878 Hiram Maxim founded the United States Electric Lighting Company
1878 205,144 William Sawyer and Albon Man 6/18 for Improvements in Electric Lamps
1878 Swan receives a UK patent for an improved incandescent lamp in a vacuum tube
1879 Swan began installing light bulbs in homes and landmarks in England.
1880 223,898 Thomas Edison 1/27 for Electric Lamp and Manufacturing Process
1880 230,309 Hiram Maxim 7/20 for Process of Manufacturing Carbon Conductors
1880 230,310 Hiram Maxim 7/20 for Electrical Lamp
1880 230,953 Hiram Maxim 7/20 for Electrical Lamp
1880 233,445 Joseph Swan 10/19 for Electric Lamp
1880 234,345 Joseph Swan 11/9 for Electric Lamp
1880 Weston Dynamo Machine Company renamed Weston Electric Lighting Company
1880 Elihu Thomson and Edwin Houston form American Electric Company
1880 Charles F. Brush forms the Brush Electric Company
1881 Joseph W. Swan founded the Swan Electric Light Company
1881 237,198 Hiram Maxim 2/1 for Electrical Lamp assigned to U.S. Electric Lighting Company
1881 238,868 Thomas Edison 3/15 for Manufacture of Carbons for Incandescent Lamps
1881 247,097 Joseph Nichols and Lewis Latimer 9/13 for Electric Lamp
1881 251, 540 Thomas Edison 12/27 for Bamboo Carbons Filament for Incandescent Lamps
1882 252,386 Lewis Latimer 1/17 for Process of Manufacturing Carbons assigned to U.S. E. L. Co.
1882 Edison's UK operation merged with Swan to form the Edison & Swan United Co. or "Edi-swan"
1882 Joesph Swan sold his United States patent rights to the Brush Electric Company
1883 American Electric Company renamed Thomson-Houston Electric Company
1884 Sawyer & Man Electric Co formed by Albon Man a year after William Edward Sawyer death
1886 George Westinghouse formed the Westinghouse Electric Company
1886 The National Carbon Co. was founded by the then Brush Electric Co. executive W. H. Lawrence
Your diatribe is getting old. You repeat the same thing over and over again,
and when I ask you where is your perpetual motion machine that is powering your house (that you claim is so easily obtainable), you completely ignore the question.
Yes, outside the box thinkers have advanced science, but they all learned what was in the box first and improved on already explored science.
Originally posted by aynock
fact is oil is the cheapest energy resource we have at the moment - anyone who can come up with a 'cheaper' form of energy production would get pretty rich, pretty quick - but it's a 'money where your mouth is' situation
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
We have an Over Unity device. It's called the atom bomb. You say, no wait.. that's different.. that energy is stored and is at rest until you release it. BS. That's a theory not a proven fact.
You cannot measure that huge amount of energy inside that hydrogen atom until you split the atom
so you don't really know it's stored energy at all
In quantum physics, particles have been observed winking in and out of existence. Where do they get the energy to do this? Science does not know.
Instead of armchair scientists on ATS stating falsehoods
you do not know enough about the world or physics or thermodynamics to say it's impossible.
You are the snake oil salesmen.
I am an actual, professional, theoretical physicist. You are the "armchair scientist."
Why would I continue to respond to your repeated demand in multiple threads when you refuse to even consider what I have already presented and not only do you refuse you then take it upon yourself to try and ridicule and defame it without ever having examined it... Sigh!
Never mind how many times in history so called absolutes of science have been found to be wrong or misunderstood.
And had they listened to flat earthers like you they never would have ventured outside the box.
Some ancient authorities in the doxographic tradition credited the Greek philosophers Pythagoras, in the 6th century BC, and Parmenides, in the 5th, with recognizing that the Earth is spherical.[64]
Around 330 BC, Aristotle maintained on the basis of physical theory and observational evidence that the Earth was spherical.[65]
The Earth's circumference was first determined around 240 BC by Eratosthenes.
You are the most negative Nelly defeatist on this board. You jump on any and every thread repeating your crap like a satanic mantra!
But no you are so insecure and pathetic you are still repeating the same garbage here you have been since day one... Give it a rest grow up and get a life.
I got a good laugh out of this statement! So you deal in "theories" yet you have the nerve to claim "you know" all these things you claim and to call others arm chair scientist... Bit of a contradiction don't you think... Another product of the Academia cult... Entertaining to say the least...
Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by Moduli
I am an actual, professional, theoretical physicist. You are the "armchair scientist."
I got a good laugh out of this statement! So you deal in "theories" yet you have the nerve to claim "you know" all these things you claim and to call others arm chair scientist... Bit of a contradiction don't you think... Another product of the Academia cult... Entertaining to say the least...edit on 23-10-2012 by hawkiye because: (no reason given)