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Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by SunnyDee
I read the book Under the Banner of Heaven many years ago. It is a true story and involved a mormon family and murder. The book is also interesting as an introduction to mormanism.
This book is about Mormon fundamentalists. You know Jeff Warrens. Child brides etc.
That's like saying a book about Westboro church - - - represents Christians.
They are not official LDS.
Originally posted by adjensen
How do the beliefs of Warren Jeffs differ from the teaching of Joseph Smith or Brigham Young? Child brides? .
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by adjensen
How do the beliefs of Warren Jeffs differ from the teaching of Joseph Smith or Brigham Young? Child brides? .
I'm not going to waste my time.
You've made up your mind what you want to believe.
After God revealed the doctrine of plural marriage to Joseph Smith in 1831 and commanded him to live it, the Prophet, over a period of years, cautiously taught the doctrine to some close associates. Eventually, he and a small number of Church leaders entered into plural marriages in the early years of the Church. Those who practiced plural marriage at that time, both male and female, experienced a significant trial of their faith. The practice was so foreign to them that they needed and received personal inspiration from God to help them obey the commandment.
In 1889 in the face of increasing hardships and the threat of government confiscation of Church property, including temples, Wilford Woodruff, President of the Church at the time, prayed for guidance. He was inspired to issue a document that officially ended the sanction of plural marriage by the Church. (Source: lds.org)
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by SunnyDee
reply to post by Annee
I know, I read the book.
The book also does a nice job on the history of the mormon church.
Sounds like a good book. However - separating official LDS from the fundamentalists is very important.
I'm not religious in any way. I actually now consider myself Atheist.
But I was Mormon for 5 years. They are a lot more "fundamental Christian" - - with Variations - - then most people would expect.
I defend them - - because the people are great. I love how they organize and run their wards. They assign attendance times by location. In other words - - you go to church with your neighbors. This helps everyone help each other. They are family focused. etc etc.
I've had visions and experience since first memory - so I have no problem accepting that.
I believe what people consider "gods" are actually real more evolved off-planet beings. So I have no problem with them believing in "worlds without numbers".
And like other beliefs - - there are members who support gay rights and are trying to work within the church.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by adjensen
How do the beliefs of Warren Jeffs differ from the teaching of Joseph Smith or Brigham Young? Child brides? .
I'm not going to waste my time.
You've made up your mind what you want to believe.
Originally posted by BlueAjah
reply to post by MsAphrodite
Those fundamental beliefs are subjective. One religion can not tell another religion what their fundamental beliefs should be. If the definition of Christianity varies between organized religions, one is no more superior than any other in determining what is false or what is the truth. Each religion determines their own truth.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by FeelingPure
But you can't blame the church! everyone has free agency the ability to make your own decision, If you don't want to be in a church then don't! but don't call us EVIL , Satan followers because we do more good services then sad little break ups in family's occur in our church!!
Its ridiculous. People (or ex Mormons) who make a big deal about leaving Mormonism and finding Christ through Christianity.
There are at least 3500 official "Christian" sects in the USA alone. Each has its own difference on the story of Christ and Christ is their savior.
Mormons are Christians too. Christ is their only Savior. Only in my experience Mormons feel insulted if you call them Christians.
Its just stupid. Just because Mormons believe something is sacred to devout believers - - - those who aren't a part of it make up all kinds of nefarious conspiracies.
Originally posted by MsAphrodite
Do Mormon's accept the fundamental Christian teaching of the Trinity? The Christian doctrine of the Trinity defines God as three divine persons:
God is the Father
God is the Son
God is the Holy Spirit
The three are one in the same essence. According to this doctrine, there is only one God in three persons. Each person is God, whole and entire.
Do Mormon's fully accept this teaching?
This is a question that has a yes or a no answer.
edit on 21-10-2012 by MsAphrodite because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheGreatDivider
Originally posted by dollukka
reply to post by MsAphrodite
God is superior human but still flesh and blood.
Jesus is a brother of Satan, his crucifixion saved us from original sin.
There are countless Gods, every decent man can be raised as a God. Salvation is not in blood of Christ it is in polygamy.
There is no salvation outside their church, no female can be saved without a mormon husband.
Exactly, none of that is Christian. They are NOT Christians.