What about the old fashioned option of NOT running red lights?

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Not to mention that they are not just for "Running red lights." They are for speeding as well which is particularly annoying. I mean a cop should have to catch you in order for you to get caught speeding.

BTW, it's illegal in Washington state to attempt to obstruct your license plate in any way to avoid identification by these cameras.

Originally posted by alfa1

What about the old fashioned option of NOT running red lights?

And intentionally endangering the lives of others in those situations where it's less safe to come to a screeching stop when the light turns yellow 100 meters in front of you and the roads are wet. You either slam the brakes and risk spinning out or getting rear-ended, or you speed up to make the light and risk hitting stopped traffic ahead of the intersection. But you do the safe thing and coast through you get fined. Camera lights encourage unsafe behavior, and are there for the sole purpose of generating revenue, not reducing accidents. If they were there to reduce accidents, then accidents would actually be reduced, don't ya think? But studies have proven rear-end accidents are higher at intersections with red light cameras because of the unsafe behaviors they encourage.

That doesn't even take into account the fact that they don't even ticket the driver - they ticket the owner, whether the owner was the one driving or not. If you get a ticket in the mail because the person who borrowed your car ran a red light, YOU have to go to court and prove yourself innocent. Yup, you truly are 100% guilty until proven innocent. Can't get the day off to go to court? Guilty! Did the offense occur while out of town and you can't drive all the way back to go to court? Guilty!

Originally posted by SilentKoala
And intentionally endangering the lives of others in those situations where it's less safe to come to a screeching stop when the light turns yellow 100 meters in front of you and the roads are wet. You either slam the brakes and risk spinning out

If you have to risk "spinning out" or "screeching" to a stop on a wet road, then its clear that you are not driving safely according to the weather conditions.
In all my years of driving I have NEVER seen a yellow light set up in such a way that it doesnt give an alert driver a safe opportunity to stop.

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by SilentKoala
And intentionally endangering the lives of others in those situations where it's less safe to come to a screeching stop when the light turns yellow 100 meters in front of you and the roads are wet. You either slam the brakes and risk spinning out

If you have to risk "spinning out" or "screeching" to a stop on a wet road, then its clear that you are not driving safely according to the weather conditions.
In all my years of driving I have NEVER seen a yellow light set up in such a way that it doesnt give an alert driver a safe opportunity to stop.

Nope, camera lights have shorter yellow light times. This is done on purpose to limit your options to those I described above if it turns yellow right when you're at that 'golden' distance' form the light. They've gotten it down to a science.

They will also do things like alter the sequence of the lights to make the pattern unpredictable, and at busy intersections turn the light green for only a short period of time to let a couple cars through, then turn red again, to entice frustrated drivers to run the light. Yes, they actually *want* you to run the red light, so they get the revenue. If you don't run it, they don't collect.

I think it will be hard to get this idea operational.
Were talking milliseconds to counter a pic being taken.
It is pretty much instant once a flash goes off until the pic is taken
It would work if the plate holder was tied into your gps that has know camera locations in it.
Then send a signal to a series of 3 counter flash bulbs in the plate holder that can rotate flashes to create a solid 2 or 3 second flash.

Originally posted by deadeyedick
I think it will be hard to get this idea operational.
Were talking milliseconds to counter a pic being taken.
It is pretty much instant once a flash goes off until the pic is taken
It would work if the plate holder was tied into your gps that has know camera locations in it.
Then send a signal to a series of 3 counter flash bulbs in the plate holder that can rotate flashes to create a solid 2 or 3 second flash.

been done ... see the last post before this with the link

Jonathan Dandrow has developed noPhoto, which renders the pix snapped by those revenue-generating robo-cams useless. The technology behind noPhoto is fairly simple. At the top of the gadget, which doubles as a license plate frame, there’s an optical flash trigger that detects the flash of the traffic-light camera. That trigger sets off one or both xenon flashes in the sides of the noPhoto, so when the traffic-light camera opens its shutter, there’s too much light and the picture of your license plate is overexposed. Big Brother can’t read your plate.