reply to post by smilesmcgee
Thank you very much.
I need to have my biases pointed out so I can deal with them, and I'm glad you took the time to do that for me. It's a
never ending struggle, isn't it? Mind if I comment?
Not to mention, you are referring to your Christian god, but would you make the same arguement if we were talking about a god of another
The distinction I was trying to make was between worshipping ourselves, our wills, our desires, and worshipping and serving God,
His will and desires.
People never have perfect understanding. Some, isolated from what we call the modern world, may worship, oh, I don't know, trees? The Sun?
Whatever. And if that is the best truth they have been exposed to, or can sense in their souls, then they are doing rightly. I'm not insisting on a
I'm sorry, but you don't seem to understand. I don't believe in any gods. But I don't fight to reject a belief in god.
I just don't believe.
I'm confused by this, I'm hoping you can clear it up. The question of God is the fundamental question, isn't it?
Our understanding of our lives, purposes, even reality, is tied up in how we answer those questions. A universe, and a people without a God is
different, at root, from one which has some traditional style of a God in it.
If you are still trying to decide whether He exists or not, fine. As long as you are seriously working at it and holding yourself open to an answer,
and not just saying "it's more convenient or pleasant for me to not believe." This is not a question of what we want, it's Herod's question
through the Millenia, "What is Truth?" When we find the Truth, and reject it, we are doomed to ignorance and worse.
If you have found that God is not the Truth, then as a man you have a responsibility to enlighten others. Point out that this is the great deception
of all time. If someone is believing a lie, how can you sit by and let them believe it without at least a considered attempt to help them?
This isn't true at all. You are assuming that we have an interest in believing in a god, which then means we are somehow fighting ourselves to
not believe it.
Aren't you? Humanity, as far back as we can tell, has had beliefs in some form of the gods, be they crocodiles, stars,
trees, spirits, something. Those who do not have a desire to believe in some form of God are a distinct minority. I might add, they are a fairly
modern minority. Oh, there were Atheists in the past, but in our lifetimes we have seen entire countries attempt to impose Atheism, even by the
killings of believers. Even then, believers come back, even if it means hiding to worship. They are serving Truth at the expense of their lives.
Are we that strong?
I assure you, there is no comfort in seeing the realities of this world.
The "1952" in my name is my year of birth, I appreciate
your assurance that things happen here that do not bring comfort. I agree. But notice the reaction some people have. "We only have to solve
poverty, or prejudice, or ignorance, or whatever." The underlying idea is that "if we can only remake man so that he is like us, enlightened, then
we will have no need of stories of Heaven, we will have created our own. Man and science will take their rightful places as ruler and controller of
the Universe, and we can put away the nonsense of the gods."
I appreciate your interest in helping me clean out any errors I might be harboring. I think we might have more to discuss.