Failed Green Energy workers playing Cards all day long

Failed Green Energy workers playing Cards all day long

www.theblaze.com

For starters, there’s no work to be done. Employees, who are being paid with the $150 million the Department of Energy awarded the plant, claim they show up and sit around because there’s nothing to do. It has gotten to the point where employees spend most of their time playing cards and/or board games and watching movies to keep themselves entertained.

“There would be up to 40 of us that would just sit in there during the day,” one former LG Chem employee Nicole Merryman, who said she quit in May, told Target 8.

(visit the link for the full news article)

How much more do we Americans need to endure with this failure of a President? Nearly 1 TRILLION dollars wasted on Green Energy projects, most of which are now belly up and bankrupt. And to boot, these employees at this plant had no work and nothing to do.

I am completely sick and disgusted after reading this article. You should be too.

I am pretty sure that the Obama administration used a technique to cause SO much chaos all at once that we had no choice but to swallow it. SICKENING!

www.theblaze.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Here is a list of failed Energy Companies under Obama's Stimulus plan:

Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($43 million)*
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
SunPower ($1.2 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)

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*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.

How can anyone, with a bit of an IQ even consider putting this man back in office again?

Please, explain it to me.

Are you better off today, than you were 4 years ago?

While many do not like Romney, he is the only logical choice right now. Sorry, but the Green Party is not going to solve your problems. And I know you are mad that Ron Paul is not a candidate.

But don't throw away your vote!

Millions have died to protect our right to elect our officials. Please, do not disrespect their deaths and sacrifices for this right.

Millions yet have sacrificed arms and limbs -- to GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO VOTE. Please, honor them and thank them for your right to vote.

“Workers say they made test battery cells, starting late last year, perhaps 100,000 or more, and that they did a good job. They say they produced perhaps 4,000 a week. But, they say, that worked ended for the most part last December,” Target 8 report. They did, however, ship out those test batteries last spring, “apparently for recycling.”

good to see the're recycling

Originally posted by phantomjack
How can anyone, with a bit of an IQ even consider putting this man back in office again?

Please, explain it to me.

As ralph ring quoted "We get paid to search for the answer, not find it."

Regardless of who you "put" into office, you will receive the same result. The real truth is, the american people don't choose who is "put" into office, and those who put them there have to carry on the illusion of caring and working on green energy, when in fact those very sources of energy would put them out of business, and diminish there control over the population.

I don't like Obama BUT...

We need a strong president willing to fund green energies. There may be malfeasance
with the funding of these enterpizes (political kickbacks, close personal ties to CEOS etc.)
and if so Obama can burn for it...if not...at least he tried.

I want a president who would spend MY TAX MONEY like this....

Subsidize new home construction that incorporates solar panel technology. And give tax breaks
or incentives or rebates that help existing home owners cover their roofs in solar panels
or buy a small wind generator. That's how you create jobs and infuse an economy.
That's how you put people to work instead of employing people to do nothing but sit
around until the company goes broke so the CEO can declare bankruptcy and make off
with millions on the side.

Originally posted by rival
I don't like Obama BUT...

We need a strong president willing to fund green energies. There may be malfeasance
with the funding of these enterpizes (political kickbacks, close personal ties to CEOS etc.)
and if so Obama can burn for it...if not...at least he tried.

I want a president who would spend MY TAX MONEY like this....

Subsidize new home construction that incorporates solar panel technology. And give tax breaks
or incentives or rebates that help existing home owners cover their roofs in solar panels
or buy a small wind generator. That's how you create jobs and infuse an economy.
That's how you put people to work instead of employing people to do nothing but sit
around until the company goes broke so the CEO can declare bankruptcy and make off
with millions on the side.

I actually have no problem what so ever with Green Energy.

However, the biggest issue is that I CANT AFFORD IT!

I wish I could convert my home to 100% solar. But I cant. The cost is a staggering 30K USD to do so.

So whats the point? In today's limited borrowing economy, where nobody is lending money, how is one to take advantage of a 20 year ROI when one doesn't have the funds?

SO unless someone is going to help me finance my solar house, or give me a windmill, you can easily say that green energy is for the RICH ONLY.

Right?

I would have no problem what so ever driving a Tesla...believe me. I was on the waiting list for a roadster, until they increased the prices from 80K to over 120K.

These technologies are too expensive for the MAJORITY. The Minority has no chance of participating, so what's the point?

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Well, I think you COULD afford it if you didn't want to spend so much on a roadster.

Originally posted by phantomjack
How can anyone, with a bit of an IQ even consider putting this man back in office again?

Please, explain it to me.

I don't know, it's up to the person in question isn't it? I find it offensive you equate voting for the GOP to respecting soldiers considering how many I know who are actually voting for the other guy.

As for the OP, what do you expect? I expect this kind of crap from most groups getting government funding. Years ago it was defense contractors and now it's green energy. As long as you have a system in which rich special interests get to peddle influence you will get this crap.

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I think my point directly addresses your concern.

So, instead of spending billions funding companies that go bankrupt, make sure those companies
don't go bankrupt by providing capital to actual homeowners who will buy their products.

I would rather my tax dollars go directly into service by helping offset the cost of solar panels
for homeowners. If it costs 30k for a solar power system, lets forget about the battery bank
in your attic and instead tie each home into the grid. That would save a percentage of the
initial 30k investment and allow the homeowners to sell back to he power company unused
electricity. That technology already exists.

And the ancillary benefit is that we create jobs while we are spending our tax dollar. Business
will spring up to install the solar panels or windmills, distributors will arise and employ drivers,
maintenance companies will gain work keeping the systems running, electricians benefit,
home builders and renovation businesses benefit.

But the biggest benefit is that we drive down the cost of solar and wind energy by providing
volume sales, and at the same time we reduce our overall consumption on non-renewable fuels.

I can't see a down-side to this type of government program.....other than the fat cats who
own the utility companies lose money.....

I'm confused.

They have the ability to produce good batteries. Why are the not making these batteries? They made some that wound up getting recycled but it was said those batteries were decent? Whats the problem here, marketing? They don't know how to sell the product? The article really does not tell you enough about whats really going on.

Anyone know? Anyone get this?

Originally posted by phantomjack
Here is a list of failed Energy Companies under Obama's Stimulus plan:

Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($43 million)*
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
SunPower ($1.2 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)

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*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.

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Add 2 more companies to your list. This time its Satcon Technology who received $3 million from a DOE Grant

and A123 systems who makes batteries for electric vehicles. They received a $249 million DOE Grant

Satcon is the second DOE-backed green energy company to declare bankruptcy this week. As Scribe’s Michael Sandoval reported on Tuesday, electric vehicle battery manufacturer A123 Systems filed for Chapter 11 despite receiving a $249 million DOE grant.

blog.heritage.org...

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Explain this to me.. Why did these companies fail?

Perhaps there is a larger conspiracy here. The government controls the companies through funding and than creates conditions by which these companies have to fail - for the purpose of forcing out this technology or in return demanding these companies pay the government back ???

I tell you, if I had a grant for a green energy company I'd only spend as we went along making progress with the product.

I cannot understand why those solar companies failed. Solar is getting cheaper and it's growing in popularity. They could have cashed in.

Those batteries could be used for lots of things besides electric cars.

Originally posted by phantomjack

I actually have no problem what so ever with Green Energy.

However, the biggest issue is that I CANT AFFORD IT!

I wish I could convert my home to 100% solar. But I cant. The cost is a staggering 30K USD to do so.

So whats the point? In today's limited borrowing economy, where nobody is lending money, how is one to take advantage of a 20 year ROI when one doesn't have the funds?

SO unless someone is going to help me finance my solar house, or give me a windmill, you can easily say that green energy is for the RICH ONLY.

Right?

I would have no problem what so ever driving a Tesla...believe me. I was on the waiting list for a roadster, until they increased the prices from 80K to over 120K.

These technologies are too expensive for the MAJORITY. The Minority has no chance of participating, so what's the point?

I'm about to build a small 1500 sq foot home and power it with solar and wind for about 7,000 dollars. You say you can't afford it.. I have proof you cannot afford not to. Add up whatever a month your paying now for rent/mortgage, electricity, water, and gas and multiply that by the next 40 years ( or however long you think you'll keep the property and need to pay that amount) and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts it's way more than 30k.

Currently, I live below the poverty line. We make about 8 thousand a year. I own a small condo that costs about 4000 a year in maintenance fees (this includes electricity and water) I'm getting some cash soon because a Big Brand drugstore is buying a family shared owned property for five hundred thousand dollars. I'll have at least one hundred thousand dollars for my share. This is probably more money at one time than I'll ever see again in my life. I do not plan on ever working for a living again. I plan to buy land and go build my small solar powered dream house and eat what I catch, hunt and grow ( and rent the condo I have now) My home will cost under 15,000 dollars.

These may be your problems.. too big a house or not enough info on building a cheap solar and wind system, no knowledge of DIY technologies like a passive solar heating system you could heat your home with for free.. there are tons of ways to do it for dirt cheap.. you just have to look around and find what works for your needs and budget. I'll be living totally off the grid with everything paid for except property tax each year.

Take a look at the thread in my sig file called "How to have a home with no house payments and no utility bills! Video" for ideas. You can do it, there Is a way. trust me.

So the company is owned by LG Chem, a Korean company. The plant was built in 2010 with Obama at the ground breaking ceremony.

The 650,000-square-foot, $300 million facility was slated to produce 15,000 batteries per year, while creating hundreds of new jobs. But to date, only 200 workers are employed at the plant by by the South Korean company. Batteries for the Chevy Volts that have been produced have been made by an LG plant in South Korea.

*snip*

The factory was partly funded by a $150 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy. LG also received sizeable tax breaks from the local government, saving nearly $50 million in property taxes over 15 years and another $2.5 million annually in business taxes. Landing the factory was hailed as a coup when shovels first hit the ground.
*snip*

Randy Boileau, a spokesperson for LG Chem in Holland, told FoxNews.com that battery production is expected to pick up once Volt assembly lines in Detroit resume production on Oct. 15. He said the facility has spent the past two years building infrastructure and conducting pre-production “test runs.”

Read more: www.foxnews.com...

To add insult to injury, workers on furloghs one week each month are eligible to collect unemployment for that week while the company pays their benefits.

This whole scenario is uber inept. As Chesser's last quote: “Had it been private investors rather than government bureaucrats making the decision, there either would have been a reality check about the industry, or only those who made individual decisions to invest would have lost their money, not taxpayers.”

But here people, YOU can apply for a job:

lgcmi-careers.applicantstack.com...

Below is a list of current openings at LG Chem Michigan Inc.. Please click on an opening in the list to view details and apply.



Title, Department, Location



Accountant

Accounting Team

Holland, MI



Environment, Health & Safety Specialist

Admin Team

Holland, MI



Facilities Maintenance Technician - Electrical

Production Team

Holland, MI



Facilities Maintenance Technician - Mechanical

Production Team

Holland, MI



Inspector/Logistics

Production Team

Holland, MI



Machine / Production Maintenance Technician

Production Team

Holland, MI



Production Engineer

Production Team

Holland, MI



Sr. Technical Operator - Electrode

Production Team

Holland, MI



Technical Operator

Production Team

Holland, MI



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Here's some stuff the stimulus bought us:

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Over 770,000 homes weatherized. A doubling of energy from wind and solar. Cleaning 688 square miles of land formerly used for Cold War-era nuclear testing.
These are just some of the 'green' benefits from money spent under 2009's $787 billion stimulus package. Whether it was worth it is an open question, and one sure to come up with greater frequency as the presidential campaign enters its final weeks.

CNN Money Article

I realize that's not the whole deal.

But if we could just stop playing gotcha for a second, we might realize that federal loan programs — especially loans for innovative energy technologies — virtually require the government to take risks the private sector won’t take. Indeed, risk-taking is what these programs are all about. Sometimes, the risks pay off. Other times, they don’t. It’s not a taxpayer ripoff if you don’t bat 1.000; on the contrary, a zero failure rate likely means that the program is too risk-averse. Thus, the real question the Solyndra case poses is this: Are the potential successes significant enough to negate the inevitable failures?

I have a hard time answering “no.” Most electricity today is generated by coal-fired power plants, operated by monopoly, state-regulated utilities. Because they’ve been around so long, and because coal is cheap, these plants have built-in cost advantages that no new technology can overcome without help. The federal guarantees help lower the cost of capital for technologies like solar; they help spur innovation; and they help encourage private investment. These are all worthy goals.

NY Times Article

Just a little material to discuss.

This company has clearly dropped the ball, and from the number of companies that appear to offer similarly focused products and services, that have also or are also failing, one could easily be lead to the thought that there is a shady deal happening somewhere. The fact that so much taxpayer money seems to be vanishing into the ether over this issue is of great concern I am sure, to the taxpaying public of the US.

However, one should be very careful about assuming that green energy initiatives are a bad idea, simply on the frontal appearance of these examples. I would not be at all suprised to find that the reason the money is vanishing in this manner, is that the companies involved have been influenced, paid off, or in some way induced to fail by the big energy concerns, the oil reliant ones.

The reality of the situation is, that there will ALWAYS be work to do in the green energy sector. The problem is that while people are still living as hostages to big oil, the influence that big oil has will reach deep into the rest of the energy sector, and dictate how effective any one product, or technology will be. If alongside this pretty obvious market control factor, the big oil companies are influencing the market for green energy, that gives them the power to retain thier grip on the people who are under thier thumb, and prevent people from saving themselves, and lets face it, thier government, huge piles of cash by freeing themselves from the fossil tyranny under which they currently live, forcing them to continue to pay, one way or another, for oil and gas.