How can anyone, with a bit of an IQ even consider putting this man back in office again?

Please, explain it to me.

Are you better off today, than you were 4 years ago?

While many do not like Romney, he is the only logical choice right now. Sorry, but the Green Party is not going to solve your problems. And I know you are mad that Ron Paul is not a candidate.

But don't throw away your vote!

Millions have died to protect our right to elect our officials. Please, do not disrespect their deaths and sacrifices for this right.

Millions yet have sacrificed arms and limbs -- to GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO VOTE. Please, honor them and thank them for your right to vote.

“Workers say they made test battery cells, starting late last year, perhaps 100,000 or more, and that they did a good job. They say they produced perhaps 4,000 a week. But, they say, that worked ended for the most part last December,” Target 8 report. They did, however, ship out those test batteries last spring, “apparently for recycling.”

good to see the're recycling

Originally posted by phantomjack
How can anyone, with a bit of an IQ even consider putting this man back in office again?

Please, explain it to me.

As ralph ring quoted "We get paid to search for the answer, not find it."

Regardless of who you "put" into office, you will receive the same result. The real truth is, the american people don't choose who is "put" into office, and those who put them there have to carry on the illusion of caring and working on green energy, when in fact those very sources of energy would put them out of business, and diminish there control over the population.

I don't like Obama BUT...

We need a strong president willing to fund green energies. There may be malfeasance
with the funding of these enterpizes (political kickbacks, close personal ties to CEOS etc.)
and if so Obama can burn for it...if not...at least he tried.

I want a president who would spend MY TAX MONEY like this....

Subsidize new home construction that incorporates solar panel technology. And give tax breaks
or incentives or rebates that help existing home owners cover their roofs in solar panels
or buy a small wind generator. That's how you create jobs and infuse an economy.
That's how you put people to work instead of employing people to do nothing but sit
around until the company goes broke so the CEO can declare bankruptcy and make off
with millions on the side.

Originally posted by rival
I don't like Obama BUT...

We need a strong president willing to fund green energies. There may be malfeasance
with the funding of these enterpizes (political kickbacks, close personal ties to CEOS etc.)
and if so Obama can burn for it...if not...at least he tried.

I want a president who would spend MY TAX MONEY like this....

Subsidize new home construction that incorporates solar panel technology. And give tax breaks
or incentives or rebates that help existing home owners cover their roofs in solar panels
or buy a small wind generator. That's how you create jobs and infuse an economy.
That's how you put people to work instead of employing people to do nothing but sit
around until the company goes broke so the CEO can declare bankruptcy and make off
with millions on the side.

I actually have no problem what so ever with Green Energy.

However, the biggest issue is that I CANT AFFORD IT!

I wish I could convert my home to 100% solar. But I cant. The cost is a staggering 30K USD to do so.

So whats the point? In today's limited borrowing economy, where nobody is lending money, how is one to take advantage of a 20 year ROI when one doesn't have the funds?

SO unless someone is going to help me finance my solar house, or give me a windmill, you can easily say that green energy is for the RICH ONLY.

Right?

I would have no problem what so ever driving a Tesla...believe me. I was on the waiting list for a roadster, until they increased the prices from 80K to over 120K.

These technologies are too expensive for the MAJORITY. The Minority has no chance of participating, so what's the point?

Originally posted by phantomjack
How can anyone, with a bit of an IQ even consider putting this man back in office again?

Please, explain it to me.

I don't know, it's up to the person in question isn't it? I find it offensive you equate voting for the GOP to respecting soldiers considering how many I know who are actually voting for the other guy.

As for the OP, what do you expect? I expect this kind of crap from most groups getting government funding. Years ago it was defense contractors and now it's green energy. As long as you have a system in which rich special interests get to peddle influence you will get this crap.

I'm confused.

They have the ability to produce good batteries. Why are the not making these batteries? They made some that wound up getting recycled but it was said those batteries were decent? Whats the problem here, marketing? They don't know how to sell the product? The article really does not tell you enough about whats really going on.

Anyone know? Anyone get this?

Originally posted by phantomjack

I actually have no problem what so ever with Green Energy.

However, the biggest issue is that I CANT AFFORD IT!

I wish I could convert my home to 100% solar. But I cant. The cost is a staggering 30K USD to do so.

So whats the point? In today's limited borrowing economy, where nobody is lending money, how is one to take advantage of a 20 year ROI when one doesn't have the funds?

SO unless someone is going to help me finance my solar house, or give me a windmill, you can easily say that green energy is for the RICH ONLY.

Right?

I would have no problem what so ever driving a Tesla...believe me. I was on the waiting list for a roadster, until they increased the prices from 80K to over 120K.

These technologies are too expensive for the MAJORITY. The Minority has no chance of participating, so what's the point?

I'm about to build a small 1500 sq foot home and power it with solar and wind for about 7,000 dollars. You say you can't afford it.. I have proof you cannot afford not to. Add up whatever a month your paying now for rent/mortgage, electricity, water, and gas and multiply that by the next 40 years ( or however long you think you'll keep the property and need to pay that amount) and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts it's way more than 30k.

Currently, I live below the poverty line. We make about 8 thousand a year. I own a small condo that costs about 4000 a year in maintenance fees (this includes electricity and water) I'm getting some cash soon because a Big Brand drugstore is buying a family shared owned property for five hundred thousand dollars. I'll have at least one hundred thousand dollars for my share. This is probably more money at one time than I'll ever see again in my life. I do not plan on ever working for a living again. I plan to buy land and go build my small solar powered dream house and eat what I catch, hunt and grow ( and rent the condo I have now) My home will cost under 15,000 dollars.

These may be your problems.. too big a house or not enough info on building a cheap solar and wind system, no knowledge of DIY technologies like a passive solar heating system you could heat your home with for free.. there are tons of ways to do it for dirt cheap.. you just have to look around and find what works for your needs and budget. I'll be living totally off the grid with everything paid for except property tax each year.

Take a look at the thread in my sig file called "How to have a home with no house payments and no utility bills! Video" for ideas. You can do it, there Is a way. trust me.

This company has clearly dropped the ball, and from the number of companies that appear to offer similarly focused products and services, that have also or are also failing, one could easily be lead to the thought that there is a shady deal happening somewhere. The fact that so much taxpayer money seems to be vanishing into the ether over this issue is of great concern I am sure, to the taxpaying public of the US.

However, one should be very careful about assuming that green energy initiatives are a bad idea, simply on the frontal appearance of these examples. I would not be at all suprised to find that the reason the money is vanishing in this manner, is that the companies involved have been influenced, paid off, or in some way induced to fail by the big energy concerns, the oil reliant ones.

The reality of the situation is, that there will ALWAYS be work to do in the green energy sector. The problem is that while people are still living as hostages to big oil, the influence that big oil has will reach deep into the rest of the energy sector, and dictate how effective any one product, or technology will be. If alongside this pretty obvious market control factor, the big oil companies are influencing the market for green energy, that gives them the power to retain thier grip on the people who are under thier thumb, and prevent people from saving themselves, and lets face it, thier government, huge piles of cash by freeing themselves from the fossil tyranny under which they currently live, forcing them to continue to pay, one way or another, for oil and gas.