Chinese Plant Compound Wipes out Cancer in 40 Days, Says New Research, page 2


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reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 06:20 AM by Sinny
Originally posted by Urantia1111
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post by Lucid Lunacy



You're a long-time member. He's notorious for stuff like this.

In this case he seems to be rooting FOR the Medical-Industrial Complex to slightly alter what would be a nearly free cure for cancer then charging dying patients $1000/mg for it.

Sorry. I thought this was common knowledge.


I heard about this plant sometime last year, along side the fact one of China's cancer cures had been banned for exportation.

Its really annoying I cannot find the article now


reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 06:23 AM by SambhavaamiYugeYuge
reply to post by Phage



Phage, I have always seen your responses to the insane conspiracy theories and have often admired your realistic and well-informed points of view. I have felt that you bring a sense of sanity to this site.

But this response of yours seems to be driven by the sole purpose of debunking any alternate knowledge. As a person who has had first hand experience with the "Big Pharma" I know the reality about it and how the whole thing is driven by nothing by money.

It's always good to keep a level head and look at thing from a down to earth perspective, but it doesn't mean just debunking anything and everything not accepted by mainstream science. I suggest you try to open up a wee bit more.

Nevertheless I still admire you for your knowledge and levelheadedness. Keep up the good work.



reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 07:55 AM by moniesisfun
reply to post by OutonaLimb



Phage is not no-conspiracy, or pro-establishment. He's highly skeptical of everything, because he has a highly critical mindset. It's just that his standards for proof are quite high, is all. He can get on my nerves as well, but I still think he's an asset to this website. Cut him some slack.


reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 07:57 AM by Plotus
Originally posted by OutonaLimb
Originally posted by Urantia1111
reply to
post by Phage



Interesting how you always manage to put an immediate kibosh on any idea that dares to step outside the confines of 100% mainstream western medicine and/or science.

Why would the Chinese know anything? They're only one of the longest enduring cultures on the planet. No way they could have anything figured out with only thousands of years of experience.


Agreed. Phage is a very dangerous (IMO), no-conspiracy-anywhere-ever type of guy.
One has to wonder what the hell he is doing here at all.
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When 'Phage' speaks, people stop and listen, and in some cases, are brought back down to Earth. I for one find His comments worthwhile and of value. In a forum with many a 'fringe' participants, it's a much needed refrain from the paranoia frenzy. As I pointed out in another post reply, 'he's been absent' for too many days.
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reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 08:15 AM by xXSvenXx
I think this plant has much more potential.

blushwood.com...

The Blushwood (Hylandia Dockrillii) is a naturally growing tree known to exhist in a small area of the Australian Rainforest. In recent years, the chemicals contained in the seed of the Blushwood's fruit have been researched for the potential of anti-cancer properties.


Edit for new link........www.qbiotics.com...
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reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 08:42 AM by Griffo515
reply to post by Wonderer2012



Wow I cannot wait to NOT hear anything else about this plant in 4-5 weeks...90% of people will completely forget about this and the other 10% will be too lazy to care.


reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 09:13 AM by emptyOmind
Originally posted by Phage
It's disgusting that these 'Big Pharma' can prevent mainstream science from looking into natural solutions that could help people all over the world.
Do you have any idea how many products of "Big Pharma" are synthesized versions of natural compounds?

Interesting that your highly biased source failed to mention that the study involved such a synthesized compound. Interesting that your highly biased source failed to mention that the natural compound is not really useful. Interesting that your highly biased source didn't mention that the impressive results were found with the synthesized compound.
However, triptolide is poorly soluble in water, limiting its clinical use. We therefore synthesized a water-soluble analog of triptolide, named Minnelide.


So, as in most cases, a natural compound found to be somewhat effective is used as the starting point to produce something that may be very effective.
Together, our results suggest that Minnelide shows promise as a potent chemotherapeutic agent against pancreatic cancer, and support the evaluation of Minnelide in clinical trials against this deadly disease.

stm.sciencemag.org...

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i think this is kind of the point.. that a lot of products put out by big pharma are synthesized natural products. its not that they are not effective, its the fact that the fed routinely bans or applies high taxes to these natural ingredients that big pharma uses.

also i believe a more wordly person would realize there are many things in this word that we do not fully understand. there are many natural cures and even rituals that may have no scientific merit as we can measure it that are effective against various forms of dis-ease

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reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 11:54 AM by Wonderer2012
reply to post by Phage



It's more the idea that Big Pharma takes these God given and natural solutions and patents them etc to sell at very high prices.

Nature has seemingly provided man with natural remedies, why should it be made into business that a minority control?


reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 11:56 AM by Wonderer2012
Originally posted by NeoVain
reply to
post by Wonderer2012




The thing i find most interesting here is the part where they claim it is bad for fertility in men, the exact same claim they have for Borax, which is another extremely important and useful substance to fight fluoridation, which most people are subject too due to water fluoridation as well as absorbing it through the mouth when brushing teeth. As is now becoming more and more widely known, fluoridation is very damaging to humans, lowering IQ, making bones brittle, causing cancer, arthritis etc. for more dangers of fluoride go here (www.fluoridealert.org...)

Borax, even in small doses, will absorb the fluoride from your system and expel it over time by natural means. E285 is another name for Borax, when it is used as a conserving agent used in foods such as caviar. The funny thing though is that E285(a european definition), is banned for human consumption in four countries: the U.S, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand. The same countries which also fluoridate their water the most. Coincidence?

Why is it banned? They claim it "may hurt fertility in men", although they have no proof of this other than a singular mouse test performed in the 60:s which yielded fewer offspring in mice.
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Whether that is an agenda to stop people taking a natural remedy I simply would not know.

It's possible for sure, but weird that things that could potentially heal you would at the same time reducing male fertility.
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