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reply posted on 19-10-2012 @ 01:56 AM by jmdewey60
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy

Do you have a link or verses saying the OT says YHWH is an angel?

In Exodus, the angel appeared to Moses.
He said he was know by different names to his ancestors but that he should know him as I Am.


reply posted on 19-10-2012 @ 02:00 AM by Greenx06
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy



I personally disregard the common conception that angels are like a class of people under gods control. To me, Angel is a form. God showed himself to Moses upon the burning bush in a Angelic form. A spiritual form used when communicating to us. In Exodus, it says that THE angel of God appeared to him, not AN angel of the lord appeared to him.


reply posted on 19-10-2012 @ 08:18 AM by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to
post by vaelamin

Jesus is the son. So we dont know the real name of God? Is it hidden?

Jesus is the name of God.
That is the way it works, He (God) is known by someone who is His representative who "carries His name".
In the Old Testament times it was an angel known as YHWH, which means "I Am".
Jesus is now the "I AM".
Superior over the old designated name carrier, being actually the Son of God, and also by virtue of that relationship, a god in his own right.


"Ehjeh" means "I AM", it's a title God gave first to Moses. His Name which was given previously to Abraham was Yahweh. God uses over a hundred various titles for Himself, but I have seen only one proper Name. YHWH appear over 7,000 times in the Hebrew text.

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reply posted on 19-10-2012 @ 09:10 AM by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by SilentKoala
According to Exodus 34:14, his name is Jealous:

Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.

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That's not what he is saying. He is saying he is jealous with his name. His glory and his praise he will not give to anyone else that is what he is saying.

Isaiah 42:8

8 “I am the Lord, that is My name;
I will not give My glory to another,
Nor My praise to graven images.

"Graven images" refers to idols and false gods. The polytheists and pagans were worshipping the things they made with their hands. He's saying he is the only real God. As above, transfer the tetragrammaton YHVH for LORD.
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reply posted on 19-10-2012 @ 10:16 AM by Blue_Jay33
Originally posted by vaelamin
I dont see it and i did a google search on bible verses. What chapter is it shown in?
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A fair question, I will answer with the bible as you requested.
Psalms 83:18 multiple bibles

Geneva Bible
That they may knowe that thou, which art called Iehouah, art alone, euen the most High ouer all the earth.


King James Bible
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.


World English Bible
that they may know that you alone, whose name is Yahweh, are the Most High over all the earth.


IHOT
H3045 וידעו That may know H3588 כי that H859 אתה thou, H8034 שׁמך whose name H3068 יהוה JEHOVAH, H905 לבדך alone H5945 עליון the most high H5921 על over H3605 כל all H776 הארץ׃ the earth.


This is from Strongs transliteration of the the Tetragrammaton.
3068 [e] Yah·weh יְהוָ֣ה is the LORD

I have studied this topic very extensively my conclusion is this:

1) God does have a personal name, "LORD" is a title.
2) God's name is represented in old Hebrew by the Tetragrammaton, the direct translation is not "LORD"
3) God's name in Hebrew began with "Y".
4) God's name in English begins with "J"
5) Most bibles if they use God's name at all, use "Jehovah"
6) Study of the scriptures reveals that all "Y" based names were changed to "J" in the conversion from Hebrew to English, so if you use Jesus, you use Jehovah.

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reply posted on 19-10-2012 @ 10:23 AM by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by Blue_Jay33



Or you just cut through all the red tape and call him Jesus or Yeshua because that is who he is. Only Father can reveal Son, only Son can reveal the Father and the Son revealed the Father to Philip in John 14 and practically made Philips eyes bug out of his head.



reply posted on 19-10-2012 @ 10:33 AM by Blue_Jay33
reply to post by lonewolf19792000



I disagree because I have unitarian style belief of God and Jesus, they are separate distinct spiritual beings with there own personal names, do you know what Jesus's heavenly name is? Because Jesus is the earthly anglicized name. He received a different name when he was created before the physical universe existed. He became Jesus at his earthly birth, and the Christ at his baptism.


reply posted on 19-10-2012 @ 10:44 AM by Blue_Jay33
reply to post by vaelamin



If you use the name the bible uses Jehovah/Yahweh; how can God fault you for using the name in his own book ?

Calling on the name used in the bible is good even recommend.

Acts 2:21 NSB
It will come to pass, that whoever will call on the name of Jehovah will be saved.


Proverbs 18:10 NSB
The name of Jehovah is a strong tower. The righteous runs into it for protection.


So if you are going to prey that is the name to use, God listens when he hears his name being used.
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reply posted on 19-10-2012 @ 03:23 PM by AfterInfinity
reply to post by vaelamin



Is God's name really Yahweh?


The more accurate question is, is the Bible really reliable?


reply posted on 19-10-2012 @ 06:06 PM by subject1145
My two cents:

Sound has a very profound impact on the human body and the world around it, if you see it or not. Have you ever been at a concert and been near the speakers and almost felt like you were kicked in the chest every time the Bass hit? After a quick search I came up with a link that helps explain the physical effects of acoustics on the human body
Link

It is possible that the true name of "God" when spoken actually has some effect on the world around it due to the frequency, amplitude, and modulation (don't get me started on harmonics, repetition, and reverberation) of the signal that is produced.

Everything that exists does so at a frequency. I am working on a theory that I will post later. It is way to complicated to type out, and construct properly, when my brain is fried after a long week. I'm sure I am on to something though.
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