What If UFO'S are actually us from the future?, page 6


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reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 03:43 AM by SystemResistor
reply to post by nv4711


Basically its a time that you cannot perceive, if time is a waveform, then alternate time waves could intersect, and at intersection points, you have a "time between spaces."

Basically, there could be a "bubble" of alternate "time" within our currently perceived "present moment" - thinking of the "present moment" as a static field that experiences interruptions from time-to-time.
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reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 03:32 PM by ascension211
reply to post by nv4711


The following is a break down for you of all that I have contributed to the discussion on this thread.

How come we never hear about IFO's? We may be witnessing something we do recognize but are not familiar with yet? What if the unidentified objects are in fact us from the future? We can not have contact with them because of the space time continuum and would alter history and make certain people disappear from existence. We have these crop circles and other unexplained phenomena that may be the only way for our future us to communicate with our present us without affecting the outcome directly. Also, there may be other civilizations that we have problems with that want to directly change our history and we battle with them in another dimension, but we get glimpses of this through a time warp? There are an infinite amount of possibilities that could be probabilities. Either way if our future us has already experienced certain things that were catastrophic, it would only be natural to try and warn us. But, they probably already know it is futile and are just waiting to pick up the pieces, because so many people want to shoot down valid information with disinformation because they are afraid to know the truth or let others know the truth. Whatever the truth is, I will just say this, do not live your life in fear, let LOVE guide you and live every day to the best of your ability and be prepared spiritually.

Sincerely,

Ascension211


If there is something of a natural cataclysm that is going to happen they can only try to warn us, they can not stop it from happening, as to changing things in the present, who is to say they haven't altered the things they could? There have been many instances of nuclear war getting ready to happen that have been stopped somehow. Be well.

Yes. That is what am saying is a possibility as to why we have not had more contact of a definitive nature. There is something that we have been witnessing, there has been mentions of contacts, but the disclosure we are waiting for may not happen in the way that will change peoples opinion one way or the other. Take care.


I think steering it from the past would have far worse ramifications as to effecting their own future. At least from the future they would have the option of what to change and what not to change. Thank you.


I would think if you are advanced enough to travel in time you would have that equation solved. I believe if you are able to travel faster than the speed of light you can pinpoint where you stop. There is so much we have yet to learn about quantum physics the ability for us to fathom certain aspects just isn't there, but the ability to recognize this is evident in Hollywood, through Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica, star wars and Stargate. they all allow for the ability to use worm holes or some vortex or some warp speed, to travel through space, i.e. time travel. Still, thank you for your reply. Take care.

Ascension211

Thank you all for the replies, even the trolls, but the topic was started and the original title being changed in no way changes my question, just reworded. Like many things< it is subjective and we are all entitled to our opinions. That is the reason this site exist. I must admit to allowing myself to be human and take offense to a few of the posts and for that I truly apologize.

My personal feelings about UFO's is that they exist. That they are in fact identifiable. Just not verifiable as to where or why they exist. Semantics allow us to place names on things that have the same meaning only worded differently, good/bad, heaven/hell etc. Really doesn't matter what you call them they still have the same content/description , where they come from or why they exist is subjective.

Keep those ideas coming, I am enjoying the different opinions/ideas that you are sharing. Take care.


reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 03:35 PM by ascension211
reply to post by nv4711


I wasn't being a jerk about it, I was just being cute. Thanks to all that I have been contributors to this thread. I feel it has been a success. I just wish to see more!


Sincerely,

Ascension211


reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 04:15 PM by ascension211
reply to post by promenion


I do not believe for one moment that crop circles are man-made by guys with planks, the intricacies are far too difficult to be ignored. However, that is not to say some have not tried. Have you ever tried? If so, I would love to see it? To say they are all hoaxes smacks of disinformation to me. Give me a break. That is, also, not to suggest humans are not capable just not in the fashion that has been presented thus far, overnight, poof and there it is, with these amazing designs in a way as to demonstrate mathematical equations and formations precisely, no not human, period. At least, not human from this present day civilization.


Ascension211


reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 04:32 PM by promenion
Originally posted by ascension211
reply to post by promenion


I do not believe for one moment that crop circles are man-made by guys with planks, the intricacies are far too difficult to be ignored. However, that is not to say some have not tried. Have you ever tried? If so, I would love to see it? To say they are all hoaxes smacks of disinformation to me. Give me a break. That is, also, not to suggest humans are not capable just not in the fashion that has been presented thus far, overnight, poof and there it is, with these amazing designs in a way as to demonstrate mathematical equations and formations precisely, no not human, period. At least, not human from this present day civilization.


Ascension211


Ask yourself why would "Aliens" come and create them since 99% of humans can't view them? Makes totally no sense. Humans have made really sophisticated crop circles and even as sophisticated and mathematical as you speak of.

Check this out, you'll be totally blown by their designs: www.circlemakers.org...

Also would like to note, Government/Military Industrial Complex not only that of USA, but other military and government intelligence have been sending hundreds of satellites into outer space, and who knows what kind of lasers and or weapons and or weapon prototypes are flying above us? I bet if some Crop Circles are in England, than its England's Military conduction experiments/testing of their lasers. Etc. I don't believe in the Alien theory at all, its disinformation.


reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 04:57 PM by Blue Shift
Originally posted by Drezden
Originally posted by Jaellma
reply to post by ascension211After all, if you were from the future, would you not be doing something about the issues in the present?

I don't see much logic in your post. To change the past would change the future. Who knows what consequences there would be from a change in history so large.. like if someone killed hitler before he started..etc..etc.. just think about it.

And who says entities or consciousnesses from the future aren't either directly or indirectly affecting us now and in the past? How would you detect such a change? We like to think that our past is unchangeable, having already happened. But how could you tell if somebody didn't already go back and save Hitler the 42 times people tried to assassinate him?

Personally, I think our reality construct here is constantly being changed in little and big ways by influences from the "future" and the "past." I think there were particularly massive changes initiated in 1951-1952 and possibly in 1974.

It's just a hunch. A feeling. When you look at history and get to a point where it shifts and it doesn't seem "right" somehow. Where you don't remember things happening quite the way historians say they did. When a celebrity "dies twice." Our brains are quantum machines both interpreting and creating reality as we exist in it. Perhaps there's some kind of quantum echo of the original past still lingering in the matrix.


reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 05:13 PM by ascension211
reply to post by Blue Shift


Valid suggestions. The possibilities exist that we are in a computer simulation in a classroom somewhere? We could be a genetic experiment? We could be like that scene in MIB 2 where we are a giant marble being used to play a game? I am happy to see the imagination working. Thanks for the reply.


Ascension211



reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 06:15 PM by nv4711
Ok, let me wildly speculate.

Let's, for the sake of the discussion, say that UFO sightings from the distant past to the present are in fact time travelers from whatever time in the future. Let's include the Ancient Alien idea (I don't subscribe to it but for this discussion I include it).

Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle says that the result of a measurement is influenced by merely observing it. Applying this to Time, it means that the future is decided every time we make a decision and that the future is not pre-determined, since we could have made a different decision ("Move to New York rather than to Miami").

In the case of our time travelers, it means that they had a profound influence on our history (which was obviously our ancestors future), just by showing up in their time machine / UFO.:

Time Travelers travel to ancient Mesopotamia --> are declared Gods --> Religions are established --> leading to Judaism, Christianity and ultimately Islam -- > Rome becomes christian and Konstantin leaves for Byzantine triggering the fall of Rome and the establishment of the Holy Roman Empire under Charlesmagne ---> This leads to the Crusades, forever poisoning the relations between Christians and Muslims --- > (big jump for brevity) ---> Muslim terrorists fly planes into the World Trade Center.

Don't get all worked up over the above, I'm not trying to be historically or politically accurate, just trying to illustrate a point.
And that point is that they determined the future of mankind just by showing up, even without doing much else.

The question is whether or not it mattered. Time travel theories by much smarter people than me say that you might be able to change things in the past, however, one way or another, the overall outcome would be the same. For example, the invention of the Atom Bomb and Hiroshima - one could change History (say be a spy and work for the Japanese) and Japan had the bomb and dropped it on LA. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter who dropped it, the important historical event is "the bomb was developed and used". In other words, 9/11 would have happened, one way or another.

Another interesting question is: would they care, if they changed the course of history?. If at the end, the outcome is overall the same, probably not. Also, do they have an understanding of their ancient past, (our present) or is our time just the same or a bigger mystery for them as the ancient past is for us?

Of course, it could also be that no more UFO sightings will be reported as of tomorrow, because the 3 day experiment that is currently going on in the Year 10,000 AD is coming to and end and was only scheduled to include the Years 5000 BC to 2012 AD - simply because that's what they were most interested in. Remember that they have a time machine, so what's 7,000 years of history can easily be gone through in just a few days - time doesn't matter anymore

Convinced having written a sufficiently incoherent and confusing posting, I leave it at that for now :-)


reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 08:49 PM by ascension211
reply to post by nv4711


Star for you, thank you for your reply. Very well thought out response, the possibilities are staggering and you added something of value to my thread. I will tell you though, in my original post, I suggested a reason why they may care about how they reveal themselves.

Here is a snippet:


We can not have contact with them because of the space time continuum and would alter history and make certain people disappear from existence.




Ascension211


reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 09:01 PM by akushla99
Originally posted by Jaellma
reply to post by ascension211
I considered the "from the future" theory but I am not holding too much credence in that. After all, if you were from the future, would you not be doing something about the issues in the present? If these things are us from the future, what is their purpose here if all they are doing is observing and evading us? What value is that as a human from the future observing the inequities in the present?

I am sorry but I just don't see any human logic in that theory.



Action transgresses the Free Will precept...in any 'time' locum...

A99


reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 09:08 PM by ascension211
reply to post by GeneralMishka


Do not find your reply to have any value to the thread, humor is fine, but at least have the decency to give something of substance first.

Ascension211


reply posted on 20-10-2012 @ 09:10 PM by ascension211
reply to post by akushla99


Gee still nothing of value from you either. My thread requires thought.

Ascension211
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