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The Oct. 16, 2012 Presidential debate thread

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posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by HostileApostle
 


You google...back up your statements...not my job....I didn't make them...

Des


These are verifiable numbers.

www.dpcc.senate.gov...


I bet you won't admit these are facts. So what's the point?




posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247

Originally posted by neo96
Romney care and Obama care are two different animals

Romney care had a small population of a few million where as Obama care effects over 320 million Ameircans,

They are not the same they do not even have the same demographic and socioeconomic backgrounds,

Anyone trying to say they are the same is peddling straight up intellectual dishonesty.


Even at a state level, Obamacare/Romney are both a bad idea. It's a corporate giveaway and only forced people into a policy, instead of providing one.


Yes they are both a bad idea finally agree on something



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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30 minutes for the POTUS to pull off a Peyton Manning comeback...

Can he pull it off?



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by PaxVeritas
The ONLY thing that Obama has done is help give a boost to the auto industry.

That is ALL I will concede.



Wait...one is now foreign owned and the other is going bankrupt again...lol So we are out 50 billion...one silver lining is it wasn't as bad as his green energy....lol



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by Awen24


Yes, you cut tax on the middle class...


And cut their spending capabilities in 1/2 too...lol


EXACTLY.

Obama is constantly focusing on his "achievements", neglecting to mention the fact that every other facet of his presidency has undercut those achievements and either rendered them null and void, or worse, resulted in a net LOSS to families and the nation.

And what's worse, Romney isn't even jumping on those opportunities - though it was nice to see that he just mentioned the number of people who have dropped out of the workforce.

Frankly, I don't like either candidate (I don't have to vote for them either, I'm Australian), but at least Romney has some kind of positive potential outlook... or at worst, doesn't have four years worth of "crushing the middle class", as he says, undercutting everything he says.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Well that says it ALL. Romney would give WAIVERS for employers to hire illegals.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Jeremiah65
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You do realize that some women need the hormones from birth control for health issues and not for contraception...? So you're a doctor? Wow...how honored are we?


If you cant afford.20 bux a month for.birth control.or.her man cant help
they shouldnt be having sex in the first place thats very irresponsible.
He cant go.get a 50 CENT condom......

Its.not.a issue obama.had to.try to make it an issue didnt work

were on illegal immigration.now thats an issue



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by JacKatMtn
30 minutes for the POTUS to pull off a Peyton Manning comeback...

Can he pull it off?


We must be watching different debates.

Compared to the first debate, Obama is destroying Romney.

And I fully admitted Obama lost last time.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by JacKatMtn
30 minutes for the POTUS to pull off a Peyton Manning comeback...

Can he pull it off?


Nope don't think Obama has done anything to win over the undecided's or independents tonite.

Hasn't hit it out of the park.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by neo96

Originally posted by sheepslayer247

Originally posted by neo96
Romney care and Obama care are two different animals

Romney care had a small population of a few million where as Obama care effects over 320 million Ameircans,

They are not the same they do not even have the same demographic and socioeconomic backgrounds,

Anyone trying to say they are the same is peddling straight up intellectual dishonesty.


Even at a state level, Obamacare/Romney are both a bad idea. It's a corporate giveaway and only forced people into a policy, instead of providing one.


Yes they are both a bad idea finally agree on something


It's happened before, just kinda rare.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by JacKatMtn
30 minutes for the POTUS to pull off a Peyton Manning comeback...

Can he pull it off?


I think he is deeper in the hole than Manning on this one..



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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Numbers from the *Democratic Policy and Administrations Center*......



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by 3chainz
Well that says it ALL. Romney would give WAIVERS for employers to hire illegals.


Thats not at all what he said..........

Hes talking about holding the companies accountable for hiriing illegal aliens..........(yeah i said illegal aliens)

Still not voting for either one of em

edit on 16-10-2012 by ManBehindTheMask because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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Same debate.. it's easy to see what's happening when you sit on the fence



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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Finally someone has the STONES to speak against Illegal Immigration.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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Did Romney just say he would use illegal immigrants kids in our military? Did I hear the correctly?



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Button
Did Romney just say he would use illegal immigrants kids in our military? Did I hear the correctly?


Military service has been a pathway to citizenship for decades.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by HostileApostle

Originally posted by JacKatMtn
30 minutes for the POTUS to pull off a Peyton Manning comeback...

Can he pull it off?


We must be watching different debates.

Compared to the first debate, Obama is destroying Romney.

And I fully admitted Obama lost last time.


Yup. Obama is owning Romney.

But the right wing never admits their losses.... that is their propaganda technique...and it's a good one.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:02 PM
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He believes in a "pathway to citizenship". How will that sit with the hardcore Neocons?



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 09:03 PM
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Romney made a mistake about the unemployment numbers. The real reason the U3 is getting lower is not because the people quit looking, it was because they found nothing and removed because their time was up and would no longer receive unemployment checks. It was 99 weeks, then 79, now it is down to 59 weeks.

Gee the numbers should go down over four years (208 weeks) whether people find jobs or not, just because their time ran out.




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