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Originally posted by davesmart
Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by davesmart
Information can be "stolen" and when its Top Secret information thats viewed/stolen, thats even worse. You guys know this but youre just being stubborn because of your support for him.
And for the record, I could care less one way or another, he means nothing to me and my Govt means nothing to me.
I am just pointing out the facts.
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The US authorities claim he deleted critical files from operating systems, which shut down the US Army’s Military District of Washington network of 2,000 computers for 24 hours. McKinnon also posted a notice on the military's website: "Your security is crap". After the September 11 attacks, he deleted weapons logs at the Earle Naval Weapons Station, rendering its network of 300 computers inoperable and paralyzing munitions supply deliveries for the US Navy's Atlantic Fleet. McKinnon is also accused of copying data, account files and passwords onto his own computer. US authorities claim the cost of tracking and correcting the problems he caused was over $700,000.[5] While not admitting that it constituted evidence of destruction, McKinnon did admit leaving a threat on one computer: US foreign policy is akin to Government-sponsored terrorism these days … It was not a mistake that there was a huge security stand down on September 11 last year … I am SOLO. I will continue to disrupt at the highest levels … [6]edit on 10/16/2012 by Juggernog because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by threewisemonkeys
Someone commented "if you can't do the crime", well, what crime has actually been committed?
You really have to ask that dude? He broke into several secure US Govt networks. Really cant believe I had to point that out.
Originally posted by sueloujo
Just waiting to hear that Julian Assange has depression and is suicidal now
Originally posted by Ferryman
Good News, i expected this. I can't believe that the USA wanted to get their hands on him, maybe it was to give him a job who knows?. Anyway his ordeal is finally over,edit on 16-10-2012 by Ferryman because: mistake
Originally posted by Mclaneinc
I was very pleased when I saw the news of this earlier today, this man wasn't a mega hacker looking to take down governments, he was using perl scripts that are freely available on the internet and only managed to see what he did because the security was NON EXISTENT or very close to being.
If anything the US owe him a favour for doing what he did sadly they just wanted to make an example of him for daring to embarrass them so badly. I mean, who would have thought that NASA was so easy to hack and there's what he did when he was online there, he chatted to a security person via Notepad, hardly a stealthy ninja hacker.
All he is, is a nerdy ufologist looking at the place most ufologists think has the evidence and by accounts he found something but he wasn't even able to download it.
Genius hacker .......NOT.....
Originally posted by threewisemonkeys
reply to post by Juggernog
We know that already, not quite breaking news is it. But how is it a crime? What about the act(s) is criminal. If I drive on a UK motorway at 70mph should I be fined by the US because their speed limit is only 55? Apologies but I like many familiar with this case have trouble even quantifying the "criminal" aspect of his actions. Cant believe I had to point THAT out.
Originally posted by something wicked
Originally posted by threewisemonkeys
reply to post by Juggernog
We know that already, not quite breaking news is it. But how is it a crime? What about the act(s) is criminal. If I drive on a UK motorway at 70mph should I be fined by the US because their speed limit is only 55? Apologies but I like many familiar with this case have trouble even quantifying the "criminal" aspect of his actions. Cant believe I had to point THAT out.
Not sure your logic makes sense there. If you drove on an American highway at a speed over their limit, then yes it's criminal, if you do the same speed on a UK motorway and it isn't over the UK speed limit, it isn't. If you hack UK governments and it isn't illegal (I'm guessing it is, but to go with your argument) then no criminal act has been committed. If you have a government network where it is illegal, then you have committed a crime regardless of where you are physically located - kind of makes sense really, not sure what you find confusing?
reply to post by Flavian
As the crime was against the state (regime) of the US, it does make sense for him to be tried in the USA
Originally posted by davesmart
Originally posted by something wicked
Originally posted by threewisemonkeys
reply to post by Juggernog
We know that already, not quite breaking news is it. But how is it a crime? What about the act(s) is criminal. If I drive on a UK motorway at 70mph should I be fined by the US because their speed limit is only 55? Apologies but I like many familiar with this case have trouble even quantifying the "criminal" aspect of his actions. Cant believe I had to point THAT out.
Not sure your logic makes sense there. If you drove on an American highway at a speed over their limit, then yes it's criminal, if you do the same speed on a UK motorway and it isn't over the UK speed limit, it isn't. If you hack UK governments and it isn't illegal (I'm guessing it is, but to go with your argument) then no criminal act has been committed. If you have a government network where it is illegal, then you have committed a crime regardless of where you are physically located - kind of makes sense really, not sure what you find confusing?
Hi poster
The person was finding a point that relativly justifies how farcicle it is, For Example
Up untill last week i was subscribed to crappy TalkTalk
I could not access some content on the net, and due to their price hike i switched back to a 3payg dongle
Seems weird that i can now access PI***E bay even though its supposed to be closed down (it was on talkTalk)
any way point being, your rules are yours in your home not mine in mine
Originally posted by something wicked
Not sure your logic makes sense there. If you drove on an American highway at a speed over their limit, then yes it's criminal, if you do the same speed on a UK motorway and it isn't over the UK speed limit, it isn't. If you hack UK governments and it isn't illegal (I'm guessing it is, but to go with your argument) then no criminal act has been committed. If you have a government network where it is illegal, then you have committed a crime regardless of where you are physically located - kind of makes sense really, not sure what you find confusing?
Originally posted by Flavian
As the crime was against the state (regime) of the US, it does make sense for him to be tried in the USA or at least for the US judicial process to be applied to him.