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Cubans are now allowed to travel

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posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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reply to post by Skyfloating
 


Happened, I imagine, right after taxes were invented. Now Kings, Shahs, Lords, etc had to keep track of their "crops" and "investments" IE the people.

IMO Cuba easing restrictions is a way of seeking an inflow of outside money. And possibly also part of a deal with the US government as the Castro era ends.

~Heff



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by Azdraik
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Oh I will not argue that, I just find it funny that people are going to go around thinking of how free they are now that they exchanged one set of documents for another.

Now, I will coincide that I have no idea how hard it was to get a set of exit permits, but in the end it boils down to needing papers to travel.


Well, judging by the people swimming in the water, I'd wager not very easy.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by projectvxn
My stepfather's son recently came to the US after my stepfather shelled out thousands to pay off commie government workers to place a rubber stamp on his sons paperwork. It took him 17 years to get his son here.



Personally, I hope the Castro's disappear. They are the reason, that Country is what it is today.

You can paint Communism on the Pig, but in Reality that family is a bunch of Dictators. Hopefully this will bring the eventual fall of these dictators.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 03:07 PM
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That's wonderful....



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating

Cubans are now allowed to travel




OMG!!! wait... is that a threat?



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by Azdraik
To leave you must have your exit permit passport and visa in order.

Ah freedom


Its an improvement...


More than an improvement... its a taste. Whets the hunger for more freedom and autonomy.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 06:07 PM
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Awesome...
This is great news


Originally posted by Skyfloating
Lets see how long it now takes for communist China and North Korea to grant their citizens some freedom.

Can you post some articles regarding what you mean with China?
I know about North Korea
But not much about what you mean by China

Can you provide some articles?
I mean chinese citizens leaving not westerners going there
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posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 06:37 PM
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Nice slight of hand by these commie.pigs
who run the cuban government reeeeeal nice
I would.not.hold my breath for.a.second.this.is.really
what it.seems.... I do not believe.this.will really happen as they say it.will..
ill believe it when I really.see.it happen and my friends.are.able.to.see.their long lost.relatives
still stuck in that urinal named Cuba..

That saying when their relatives
ever got.here they will not be leaving and there.are.millions.. Cuban.women
are known.for giving.birth to many multiple.children.over.3.FYI
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posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
You wonder who ever came up with the silly idea that you have to ask your Government for permission to physically move from A to B.


its usually the government of country B...

who do mexicans have to ask permission of to go from A (mexico) to B ( USA)?



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 07:53 PM
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WWED?...What Would Elian Do? I wonder if Elian Gonzales is going to be able to make a trip here.



posted on Oct, 17 2012 @ 03:33 AM
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Its OK to ask a foreign Government to enter their country. It seems kind of unnatural to have to ask ones own Government to leave. The Government should not be a parent substitute.



posted on Oct, 17 2012 @ 03:34 AM
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posted on Oct, 17 2012 @ 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
 


They've been leaving en masse for decades. My parents were part of a mass exodus of more than 10,000 in 1979. To this day Cubans still come ashore. It isnt propaganda its reality.


Are you talking about the Mariel boatlift? If so, that was mostly Cuban criminals and mental patients sent to the US by Castro. Basically, that was Castro taking a dump on the USA and getting away with it. Call it like it is.


edit on 17-10-2012 by TheComte because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 17 2012 @ 07:51 AM
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No I'm not. My parents took refuge in the embassy of Peru. Frim there they were granted asylum and taken to Costa Rica where I was born. We were later granted asylum by the US and brought here in 1989.



posted on Oct, 17 2012 @ 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by popcornmafia
Nice slight of hand by these commie.pigs
who run the cuban government reeeeeal nice
I would.not.hold my breath for.a.second.this.is.really
what it.seems.... I do not believe.this.will really happen as they say it.will..
ill believe it when I really.see.it happen and my friends.are.able.to.see.their long lost.relatives
still stuck in that urinal named Cuba..

That saying when their relatives
ever got.here they will not be leaving and there.are.millions.. Cuban.women
are known.for giving.birth to many multiple.children.over.3.FYI
edit on 16-10-2012 by popcornmafia because: (no reason given)


Just out of curiosity, do you have a rhyme or reason for where you put punctuation when you type?



posted on Oct, 17 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by sonnny1
Even though its a small step, It has to say something. All these years, of sanctions, and keeping that Country closed off to the rest of the World. Remember.
Really? Refresh my memory, please...who was it closed-off to? I'll be going for my fourth visit come winter.


Will we see Mob Casinos soon on Cuban soil ?
Again? Apparently they built the road from Havana to Varadero.

How come China gets a free pass...but Cuba is such a threat to the US, it must be embargoed? Hypocrisy of the highest order!



posted on Oct, 17 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by TheComte
 


I think there will, short run.

There are lots of folks, in the States, that want to be reunited with their families in Cuba.The bigger question is this. If there is a run, on mass exodus, will Cuba stop it?


Even bigger question: if they don't leave en masse, what does that do for our propaganda?
Even bigger, bigger question: Will they all be welcomed to the US or be regarded as illegal aliens?



posted on Oct, 17 2012 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Really? Refresh my memory, please...who was it closed-off to? I'll be going for my fourth visit come winter.



Hmmmm......


Title of the thread, speaks volumes.

Cubans are now allowed to travel






edit on 17-10-2012 by sonnny1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 17 2012 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck


How come China gets a free pass...but Cuba is such a threat to the US, it must be embargoed? Hypocrisy of the highest order!


Its not right that China is treated much more nicely than Cuba. I guess its economy related.



posted on Oct, 18 2012 @ 03:58 AM
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Originally posted by Hefficide
as the Castro era ends.


Im not sure its ending.. His younger brother took over, didnt he?




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