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Originally posted by LotusUprising
At 1:27 in that video, the reporter stated that it was a train going by. Possibly misspoke but I thought it interesting.
Originally posted by RationalDespair
Just checked back on the thread and had a *lot* of posts to catch up with, but this is still a very interesting thread and I want to post my 2 cents about the footage of the two explosions.
For those who missed it, here´s the footage from the security camera:
At 10:30:33 and a bit, the first flash starts and lasts a full 5 seconds untill it dies out around 10:30:38 and everything goes dark again. About 4 seconds later, at 10:30:42 and a bit, two events start almost at the same time: first the second flash of light and immediately after that, debris or dust flying from the lighted scene towards and past the camera.
Now I´ve seen some explanations about the camera being approximately 3 miles from the bunker site and that the shockwave took 10 seconds to reach the camera. This is assuming the shockwave is the result from the first flash. The problem I have with this is that this comes down to around a velocity of 482 meters per second. As far as I could find, shockwaves from explosive ammunition or explosives usually travel about 2000 m/s up to Mach 28.
Maybe someone with more experience could enlighten me here? Right now I feel that there are two possible explanations for this "anomaly":
1) The first explosion was much farther away than 3 miles (at least 4 to 5 times as far)
2) The shockwave is the result of the second explosion.
Unfortunately, the footage isn´t long enough to see if another shockwave followed.
If 2 is true, then it took only about half a second for the shockwave to reach the camera, maybe a full second since the explosion was behind the treeline and likely occured a bit earlier than what we see. Assuming the second explosion was indeed 3 miles away (the bunker), then the shockwave traveled at 4828 m/s up to 9656 m/s. So roughly speaking, this complies to an ammunition storage exploding and propagating a high velocity shockwave. This would imply that the first explosion was indeed the trigger for the second, and had no traceable shockwave.
I know I made a lot of assumptions and rough calculations, but you get the idea. I was trying to enforce the idea that the bunker indeed exploded, but this was done by means of an external trigger.
Originally posted by NWLouisianaMom
I actually drove by Camp Minden yesterday and wanted to make sure I knew where Lott's Service Center was. I do not believe that the camera is 3 miles from the impact site (or what they are calling the impact site). I would say maybe 1 1/2 miles, at the most. I also think the first explosion *DID* happen further away...my guess is about 11-12 miles away over Minden, LA, which is why windows were busted out THERE and not so much as close to Camp Minden (which is actually between Dixie Inn and Haughton, LA).
Originally posted by hbarker
Anyone think all the dead trees All Around the sink hole is strange?
What sq mile or better? Those trees are Dead , Its not fall here YET..