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Originally posted by SaltireWarrior
Originally posted by OratoryHeist
16 & 17 yr olds a vote? They must be desperate to gain independence. The majority of those will just vote against the UK government, because its 'cool' to be anti-establishment.
Actually quite the opposite. The polls from YouGov show that 16 and 17 year olds are one of the groups least likely to vote for independence. I'm actually 17 and the majority in my school don't want independence.
The SNP have had it in their manifesto to widen the electorate to include 16 and 17 year olds for some time, and not just for this referendum.
Originally posted by TSOM87
I would vote SNP if we truly were going Independent, but we are not. The SNP plan to join the EU, swap England for Germany. Enough said.
Originally posted by Six6Six
I absolutely love this peace of news.
I am English born and raised in London. Its about time we let the Scottish "people" gain independence from the UK.
I have no liking for the country of Scotland what-so-ever. They are a drain on the economy, they FAIL at everything they put their hands too and they generally suck as a country. If anything we need to put a wall around out border and block out these perpetual drug taking people from entering England again. They have zero chance of surviving and with no real economy or armed forces or even a basic grasp of the English language they will be placed at the bottom of all irrelevant things the UK and mainly England has had the displeasure of being associated with.
I can not explain in words clear enough how bad Scotland sucks at being a country. If you walk around the center of Glasgow you really get to understand the depths people can sink to in life.
And no one from Scotland come on here and talk about the oil....you will never have the run of it. Once you are independent you will be pushed out of any deal, have zero way of enfoceing anything and the only form of intelligence gathering your country will be able to conduct is how many crack pipes lie in doorways of shops and bus stops. Good riddance to Scotland.
Originally posted by musashi9
This will fail mainly because by the time of the referendum the U.K will have merged with Canada Australia and New Zealand ( they are already merging their embassies into one) and Scotland won't want to be alone when that happens .
Originally posted by sapien82
reply to post by thoughtsfull
England exchanged England for Germany too remember , yeh that nice wee royal family arent born and bred are they!
With regards to import and export , the port of grangemouth where I happen to come from has recently seen a multi million pound refurb and is currently undergoing extensive improvement to transport infrastructure. It now houses the largest ASDA distribution centre for the whole of scotland the project cost £500 million and is a state of the art distribution hub for scotland. With the port upgrading their container terminal each year ,and work being done to the port to increase intake , grangemouth will now be transformed into a modern distribution hub. Mostly all of scotlands imports from Europe now come into grangemouth for distribution by rail or by road to Scotland.
A new renewable energy Biofuel power station is also to be developed in Grangemouth to provideclean fuel for scotland. These are just a couple of examples showing that the economy isnt downgrading in Scotland and that even in my small town of 13K inhabitants that new business is coming back despite economic downturn !
Thank you, thank you so much for so eloquently setting down all of the reasons that Scotland should vote for independence. You have single handedly put paid to the lie that Scotland performs better in the union.
reply to post by christina-66
IF, as they say, Scotland does better in the union, why then do we have the second highest per capita drug usage in the world (next to Iran)? Why is alcoholism killing people in such numbers? Why is our economy devoid of substance? Why has unemployment been running at eye watering levels since the late 1970's? Why is our black market as lucrative as the real economy? Aaah - it's because the union has been so good for us - of course.
I just want the reform ,
whether we have an independent scotland or not , if its a YES then I want reform and Salmonds head on a pike on the walls of stirling castle , If its a no then I want reform and salmonds, camerons and that other gimps head on pikes !
You'd think with the surname cameron , he would be more friendly to scots!
Originally posted by Ramcheck
A few bullet points on why I will vote Yes;
.Trident submarines will be moved to England, fantastic, stop poisoning our waters and marine life.
.No more unelected Eton educated Tory Lords.
.Our top businessmen tell us it's the only option for recovery and economic growth.
.I'll get a nice shiny new Scottish Passport.
.The 'Union' flag will be removed from all buildings north of the border, great, because I find it highly offensive.
Alba gu bràth.