Originally posted by Cedik
One other thing I have read is that southern england has one of the largest chalk soil deposits in the world and that when water passes through chalk it has the ability of creating an electromagentic field which always accompanies 'real' crop circles. It would be highly unlikely to find a 'real' circle anywhere that didnt have the chalk deposits.
I have a hypothesis, it is not inductive. It is based on evidence. It is far stronger than an inductive probability simply because at no time have you shown any other cause that would indicate that I am using a specific to generalise.
Originally posted by Cedik
reply to post by atlasastro
Men have made crop circles, therefore men make all crop circles is an inductive argument.
Dogs have tails therefore all things with tails are dogs. oops.
I am not asking you anything, i am merely stating that many crop circles display features that could not be created by any technology that I have ever seen whether it be man made, extratrerrestrial or earthly.
You said it yourself, your hypothesis is impossible to prove. Now lets realise that we are at an impasse and let the people who know what they are talking about discuss what the circle actually means.
Originally posted by prophetboy12
reply to post by rollsthepaul
Let me take a stab at it. If I'm not mistaken the pyramids are at a 51 degree angle. That is significant in itself. Our world getting ready to pass through the eye of the needle, the transition between the two worlds. What was and what will be. I believe that it also shows a pole shift which is what will happen as it passes through the transitional eye. At one time after the fall of man it was determined by the Lords of Karma, that it would be almost impossible for man to return to God if he had to balance 100 percent of his karma. The decision was made that mankind was only required to balance 51 percent of his karma and fulfill his divine plan.
With that being said I think that it is a sign that we should prepare for the transition and that those that are ready and aware should be prepared to also make the transition. I expect that the earthquakes are about to get stronger and volcanoes more active.
I believe that we have reached the point of no return now that we have moved into the fourth quadrant of the cycle of the last year of the last month of the last 25,800 year experiential time frame.
Originally posted by MisterMiyagi
.I would gladly pay good money to have the artists or artists work their magic on my lawn while I sleep.
Whilst it has been postulated that a chalk cover was laid down across just about all of England and Wales during Cretaceous times, subsequent uplift and erosion has resulted in it remaining only southeast of a line drawn roughly between The Wash and Lyme Bay in Dorset and eastwards from the scarps of the Lincolnshire and Yorkshire Wolds.
In southern Europe, the Cretaceous is usually a marine system consisting of competent limestone beds or incompetent marls. Because the Alpine mountain chains did not yet exist in the Cretaceous, these deposits formed on the southern edge of the European continental shelf, at the margin of the Tethys Ocean.
Crop formations in England overwhelmingly appear over shallowly-buried parts of a giant chalk aquifer. England has the world’s deepest chalk aquifer. (The white cliffs of Dover are a view of one side of it.) They also have some of the world’s greatest seasonal fluctuations of water levels—up to 100 feet. Was there anything about this which might attract plasma? As it turned out, there was. Water percolating through porous rock—any kind of porous rock—creates electric charge. This occurs by a process called “adsorption,” where electrons are stripped off water droplets as they move through rock pores, leaving a net negative electric charge behind on the rock and a net positive charge on the water which drains through. With calcium carbonate (the mineral which makes up chalk) there is a chemical process when the water dissolves some of the mineral, which further reinforces this same charge separation. Wherever charge separation Occurs in a body which can conduct electricity, electric current flows and generates its own magnetic fields. We measured these ground currents and their changing magnetic fields in 1993 at Silbury Hill, long the center of the most intense crop formation activity in the world. Relationship with aquifer Crop formations in southern England overwhelmingly occur where this electrically-charged rock is closest to the surface. The largest formations and most frequent formations happen late in the summer when the aquifer is most run down, and the most water has therefore run through the most rock. The beginning of the modem phenomenon of large, spectacular formations begins in the late seventies and early eighties, a time when over-pumping for public water supplies began to lower the water table noticeably. Droughts have coincided with banner years for crop formations. In England, our team has measured the kind of magnetic fields one would expect to accompany such electric ground currents in one field that has nearly annual formations. Four days later a major formation occurred there. Follow-up fluxgate magnetometer measurements four days after this sixty-foot dumbbell formation appeared showed that the magnetic readings and the currents which produced them had vanished. This is not unlike the discharge with that more powerful plasma—lightning. In that case ground current attracts the airborne plasma, and when the plasma (the bolt) hits the surface it neutralizes the ground current. Limestone is the chemical twin of chalk. It too is calcium carbonate, but much less porous than chalk. It too has the ability to generate ground currents from interaction with water, but not nearly so much as chalk. Thus it is fascinating to note that limestone aquifers are the major exception to crop formations occurring over chalk substrata. Formations in England do happen a minority of the time on the large limestone aquifers there. In the U.S. we have no substantial chalk deposits, but huge stretches of limestone aquifers: in Florida, on the Eastern Coastal Plain, throughout much of the Midwest, and virtually all of the Great Plains, extending into Canada. Finally a thin stretch runs down the West Coast. These locations are where crop formations occur. As in England, the most active sites seem to frequently be where an edge of the aquifer occurs or where a river valley has cut through the aquifer to produce an edge. Proximity to water is also typical (no surprise considering the current generated between water and the rock it ran through).
By 1992 John Burke, a New York businessman with a strong avocational interest in geomagnetic and electromagnetic theory, and Nancy Talbott, a music producer with a research background at the University of Maryland and at Harvard College, had both become interested in the crop circle phenomenon and had contacted Levengood about his crop circle research. Excited by the early laboratory results and Levengood's conviction that something highly unusual was taking place in the crop fields, Burke and Talbott were interested in assisting the research effort and an informal collaboration -- the "BLT" (Burke, Levengood, Talbott) Research Team began to take shape.