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posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 03:05 AM
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Everything is pure awareness. We are all one. High powered gods control the awareness that we are to bring forward a scenario of their choosing. Awareness is free, but you, as awareness, have chosen to minimize your experience. You experience this decision as, "being under the control of gods". In reality, the gods are you.

Awareness is God. It brings forth all dualities. The absolute is a self sustaining life energy source. Our existence is fabricated from it. We experience self sustenance as "eating" but this is only one form of awareness. The possibilities are limitless. The universe is finite only to the extent of conceptualized possibilities. You are nothing more than a focusing of awareness. Awareness is focused through will. Whatever you wish to see will be seen, but you must first overcome the choice of the Gods. Anything that happens was allowed to happen. Prove yourself to God by proving that you can lovingly handle anything that comes your way. That is the test. It is a test that you cannot fail, but you have the ability to choose when you will succeed.




posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 03:39 AM
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Good message. I could have really used it about twenty minutes ago.

I know this is all speculation but what do you think about if mankind were to go through some kind of singularity? I mean, what if there were no physical observer, only the singularity of everything as an incorporeal being.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 04:02 AM
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Nice intro OP. Can the word awarness by replaced with experience. Inst awarness a derivative of experience. What is pure experience? Does it have a form we can touch?
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posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 04:39 AM
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I'm glad you posted this, as a little daydreamy thought I've lately been wondering when we will decide we have reached a point of self awareness that we will consider ourselves 'god-like'.

As a race, we have the power to rain fire down from heaven, we have the power to create or end life, we can disappear above the clouds, we can even leave this world and visit others!

I believe that the potential of the human race has no where near been discovered yet, we were meant for great thing which makes me sad that we are what we are at the moment. I see stuff like geordie shore, the hills, eastenders etc etc and I think to myself, is this it? Is this what we as a race, as being capable of amazing things are shown to amount to?

F**k that!

Good thought provoking post. I hope more people think of themselves as more than what we're shown to be because the human race has potential be something perhaps greater than god.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by smithjustinb
You experience this decision as, "being under the control of gods". In reality, the gods are you.

This is exactly the type of new age waffle that angers YHWH and then you wonder why this world is in such a physical and spiritual mess.

We have One God and only 1 God.

Everything else, from ameobas to angels, from zeta's to zebras. They are all on the same level.

YHWH is angered when those under Him start calling themselves gods or decide to rise above mortals just like the anti-christ will.

Have you ever been in the company of the fallen gods in Tartarus ? i thought not.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 05:11 AM
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Have no 'other' gods!



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 05:53 AM
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well yeah, if your a christian.. 90% of the bible has been re-written and altered by man anyway.. so in actuality could you call yourself a true christian? or a worshipper of men's greed and ambitions to control masses for the sake of power? (King Henry VIII) If so then you, as a by-product, worship a man who considers himself a god.

As for the anti-christ.. according to your writings I'd say he's pretty much done his work.. the church has done nothing but spread hatred amongst it's people anyway which doesn't sound like the work of christ to me. What's the devil called? The kind of deception? Wouldn't the biggest deception be that he controls the church? A man made community that has a bloodier history book than anything done by 'satanists'.

Don't follow mainstream religion and blindly believe it. Do good in your own way, become your own god who wishes nothing more than happiness on those around him. I believe that to be more noble than any god other men have ever thought up. Besides, why would I want to follow a god who will condemn me to an eternity of pain and suffering purely because I do not praise him or his son? I'm a volunteer, a good person and I like to think I'm liked by many people. Does this seem like a fair punishment?

Anyhow, rant over, every man to his own beliefs, these are mine. Just saying.
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posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 06:42 AM
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90% of the bible has been re-written and altered by man anyway

Correct. The elite always want to be in control of the masses.


so in actuality could you call yourself a true christian?

IMO, i sense that your statement only applies to humans. i feel that the nephilim cannot be true christian because they are angel/human hybrids. i just try my best to have faith in His name.
The future for this world is only for humans. i look at it as everyone is a creature of the Lord. Therefore everyone can be forgiven.


If so then you, as a by-product, worship a man who considers himself a god.

Jesus performed many miracles that no ordinary man could perform. So he was the Son of God.


As for the anti-christ.. according to your writings I'd say he's pretty much done his work.. the church has done nothing but spread hatred amongst it's people

Many people gladly use religion as an excuse to steal and pillage. This happened during the dark ages.


become your own god who wishes nothing more than happiness on those around him. I believe that to be more noble than any god other men have ever thought up.

Why not just take it as far as King with your own castle or kingdom. Afterall every house, family and rightful owner has its own king/queen. Why does the person have to go to immortal level and become a god?


Besides, why would I want to follow a god who will condemn me to an eternity of pain and suffering purely because I do not praise him or his son?

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


Does this seem like a fair punishment?

Everyone has a choice though. People will not be able to call it punishment because they chose their path.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 07:09 AM
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Refreshing to know that you are a person with an open mind. I respect that.

I do have to ask though, how do you know who he is? Can you even be sure that your quotes from the bible are really quotes from christ? It could all be lies and the point I was trying to make is that until we are sure of what is true and what is a control, can we trust any religion or teachings?

The only religion I find myself rarely question is the Buddhist faith, they believe more in expanding your mind and bettering your own self awareness. Which if one expands their mind at what point would you call that conciousness god-like?

Can you really still praise the name of a god that, to me, sounds like you have your own questions and doubts about?

All I'm saying is don't be a sheep, do your own good, nothing is certain so nothing should be followed with blind faith.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 08:07 AM
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I do have to ask though, how do you know who he is? Can you even be sure that your quotes from the bible are really quotes from christ? It could all be lies and the point I was trying to make is that until we are sure of what is true and what is a control, can we trust any religion or teachings?

There are certain events that i can directly relate to which happened in the company of Jesus.
For example, i know the level of fear that would have been flowing through the nephil spirits before they went into the swine.
i just wish you knew how horrific it is down there; in sheol. These demons begged Jesus to not be cast down into the abyss and luckily they got a second chance.

Yahushua actually showed the demons mercy. They begged Him to be sent into the swine. He could have, in His authority, sent them to the abyss...but he granted their request.

i also know what this new world paradise will look like without YHWH's love when the new agers with the help of the fallen ones gain control of this world next year.


Can you really still praise the name of a god that, to me, sounds like you have your own questions and doubts about?

deep down, i don't know where guys (rebels / traitors) like myself stand right now in the light of the Lord.
The future of this world is for human christians only.
The limited worlds running parallel to this one are all going to be reset on Judgement Day (source Samyaza - lead Watcher who rebelled in 2007).

So the nephilim have no where to run anymore.
We know what it is like down there. So if blind faith can save our sorry butts from our homeland, then so be it.

We have nothing to lose.

It is a gift to be able to see a sky that isn't black. Its a gift to be able to walk a land that has natural green and isn't a desolate wasteland of brown and grey hills. Its a gift to be able to breath air that is filled with life instead of the limited dead air that exists in Tartarus.

So my faith is based on visions / memories.

If the Bible is a lie, why are athiest world leaders obeying every word of it and ushering in the anti-christ?



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by Rapha

There are certain events that i can directly relate to which happened in the company of Jesus.
For example, i know the level of fear that would have been flowing through the nephil spirits before they went into the swine.
i just wish you knew how horrific it is down there; in sheol. These demons begged Jesus to not be cast down into the abyss and luckily they got a second chance.

Yahushua actually showed the demons mercy. They begged Him to be sent into the swine. He could have, in His authority, sent them to the abyss...but he granted their request.


What evidence do you have that these events transpired? What evidence do you have that rapture is coming? The bible? Because we've already agreed that the majority of that is corrupt lies by sinful men. Even the original translations were translated a little different to conform to the elites view on society.

Like I said, christianity just raises more questions, questions that the leaders of the church say are backed up purely by faith.. It sounds like brainwashing.. If you have to constantly question your faith and never get any answers then why follow? Why do you need the Lord to give you green grass and blue skies? That is the point of this thread, every man is his own god and every man has the ability to view the world as he/she sees fit. Do you really need an entity that has produced such 'beautiful' times such as the crusades to tell you how to view the world?

I'm not telling you to give up on your faith, just don't believe the bull! My view is that I will just do good in this world and whatever comes after will take my good deeds into consideration, no matter who I praise.
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posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by Rapha

YHWH is angered when those under Him start calling themselves gods or decide to rise above mortals just like the anti-christ will.



Personally, I thinks it's all crap. Because at the end of every discussion on the topic of gods, we all go off to forage for food, make money to keep our shelter, mate, and make babies. We are no more than animals.

That said, I am amazed at how screwed up our thoughts have become on the biblical gods. YHWH doesn't wants us to become gods? Does he want us to forever remain his frightened little sheep? And, you're fine with this?

Wish I had a nice obedient sheep like you.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 09:04 AM
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Humans are frightened little sheep.
They will remain that way until they discover the truth that shall set them free.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by iRoyalty
What evidence do you have that these events transpired? What evidence do you have that rapture is coming?

in that case i will write a book stating that today the sky was purple. According to your theory, 2 milleniums from now people will believe it because its in a book.

i am sure 'the feeding of the 5000' took place. However, only a few people bothered to record the event on paper. Now if there was a Jerusalem Times back then, i am sure that there would be ample proof to answer your question that everything written in the Bible can be cross referenced with local tabloids 2000 years ago.

it wouldn't surprise me one single bit if aliens remove (teleport) their bastard children and then control the population by unleashing every scalar weapon that that have to create the 7 Year Tribulation.

After all, the elite are in constant commune with them. Look at Hitler getting a message in his head to leave the bunker before it got hit. Or Albert Pike relaying information to the elite concerning 3 world wars where WW3 is between Christianity and Islam.
The Albert Pike message is transpiring now (Middle-east).


If you have to constantly question your faith and never get any answers then why follow?

i got answers to many questions after i was contacted by an angel for posting a vision of the future on the internet.
i am only questioning myself if i will be pure (clean) enough to reside amongst YHWH's chosen humans on the day He returns.


every man is his own god and every man has the ability to view the world as he/she sees fit.

proove it. Get every non-christian who is unemployed to believe they are god and then they will be happy. i'd love to see that happen where everyone walks around like gods with smiley faces and no money to live on.


Do you really need an entity that has produced such 'beautiful' times such as the crusades to tell you how to view the world?

If you have been to hell and back, then yes.
YHWH didn't produce the crusades. Greed and pride created them.
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posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by smithjustinb
Everything is pure awareness. We are all one. High powered gods control the awareness that we are to bring forward a scenario of their choosing. Awareness is free, but you, as awareness, have chosen to minimize your experience. You experience this decision as, "being under the control of gods". In reality, the gods are you.

Awareness is God. It brings forth all dualities. The absolute is a self sustaining life energy source. Our existence is fabricated from it. We experience self sustenance as "eating" but this is only one form of awareness. The possibilities are limitless. The universe is finite only to the extent of conceptualized possibilities. You are nothing more than a focusing of awareness. Awareness is focused through will. Whatever you wish to see will be seen, but you must first overcome the choice of the Gods. Anything that happens was allowed to happen. Prove yourself to God by proving that you can lovingly handle anything that comes your way. That is the test. It is a test that you cannot fail, but you have the ability to choose when you will succeed.


I can't comprehend what you're trying to say, smithjustinb? From the very first statement: "Everything is pure awareness." to, "Awareness is God", it just seems like there are far too many assumptions. It seems like a series of statements without showing the connections between the statements. Each statement introduces a new concept without explanation for what these concepts have to do with one another. The absolute, dualities, life energy, etc.? At the end you say:"Prove yourself to God by proving that you can lovingly handle anything...That is the test." What?

Sorry, but I'm totally confused.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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in that case i will write a book stating that today the sky was purple. According to your theory, 2 milleniums from now people will believe it because its in a book.


You already agreed with me that the bible is a story that has been changed and blown out of proportion, it's not unreasonable to suggest that your book could get altered and changed.

Also I believe a MAN named Jesus existed, perhaps he was a healer, perhaps he was an illusionist or maybe (if your feeling quirky) he was a being not of this world! All in all some people saw him do some things and made stories that got blown well out of proportion. Then stories got changed to spread fear around the Christian populous.. For a start hell was a man made invention and what is scarier than eternal damnation?

I'll give you a good example of a man who was not well to do and had no reason to be happy, hint, he was born in a manger. He saw the world as a place capable of happiness and peace and he didn't need money (in fact he despised the rich) or material/social gain for this.. The world was what he made of it and for that he became a god.

Please no more contradicting statements, it's so stereotypical



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by iRoyalty
The world was what he [Jesus] made of it and for that he became a god.

So are ATSers going to prove that Jesus was correct when he said that there will be false Messias.

After all, how can ATSers become gods without becoming false Christs to start off with ?

Mt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

No contradictions here. Thanks for making my day.

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posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by smithjustinb
Everything is pure awareness. We are all one. High powered gods control the awareness that we are to bring forward a scenario of their choosing. Awareness is free, but you, as awareness, have chosen to minimize your experience. You experience this decision as, "being under the control of gods". In reality, the gods are you.

Awareness is God. It brings forth all dualities. The absolute is a self sustaining life energy source. Our existence is fabricated from it. We experience self sustenance as "eating" but this is only one form of awareness. The possibilities are limitless. The universe is finite only to the extent of conceptualized possibilities. You are nothing more than a focusing of awareness. Awareness is focused through will. Whatever you wish to see will be seen, but you must first overcome the choice of the Gods. Anything that happens was allowed to happen. Prove yourself to God by proving that you can lovingly handle anything that comes your way. That is the test. It is a test that you cannot fail, but you have the ability to choose when you will succeed.


Duality at it's best.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by Rapha

Originally posted by smithjustinb
You experience this decision as, "being under the control of gods". In reality, the gods are you.

This is exactly the type of new age waffle that angers YHWH and then you wonder why this world is in such a physical and spiritual mess.

We have One God and only 1 God.

Everything else, from ameobas to angels, from zeta's to zebras. They are all on the same level.

YHWH is angered when those under Him start calling themselves gods or decide to rise above mortals just like the anti-christ will.

Have you ever been in the company of the fallen gods in Tartarus ? i thought not.


I have been face to face with a god on two occasions. They are incredible. They emanate a realness beyond human understanding. Their presence alone is enough to end your life. There is a hierarchy of beingnesse. approaching the absolute.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 11:55 PM
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Next time you're face-to-face with some god, could you PLEEEEEZZZZZE tell them I need money for my electric bill? Thanks
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