Anti-Obama Rhetoric Frequently has Racist Overtones

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posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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As a former democrat and current Romney supporter, it appears 99% of the race baiting comes from democrats...it's the #1 reason I'm no longer a democrat. When the Obama zombies started bashing Bill and Hillary as closet racists in the NC primary, I dropped out of the dem party....

And as for the conservatives and racism: When a couple of universities here in Oregon wanted have a "blackout" (team and fans wear all black) for halloween football games they were told it's too racist by the liberal dems.....Today's democrats have a very special interest in keeping racism alive.




posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 05:32 PM
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Nooses and watermelons are a completely different story....but "go back to Kenya" has to do with the whole birth certificate thing.

99% of the time when you see the accusation of "racist", it is not racist. The claim is almost always agenda driven.

Besides, common sense would tell you that being racist isn't so much a GOP behavior, but rather the behavior of a racist. If you don't like black folks you will campaign against one who is president, regardless of your political stance.

Climb up out of that mud. You are getting dirty.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by HostileApostle
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Had he been born in Russia instead of Kenya they would have said send him back to Russia.


He was born in Hawaii.

Hence, the racism.


You have to be among the worst kinds of trolls. Pretending to be obtuse is a dead giveaway that your approach is based in fallacy.

He may have been born in Hawaii, but that is what is contended. There are a lot of questions that to many are either unanswered, or poorly answered. It isn't racism, it is confusion. Confusion that the president helped foster.

Quit pretending that there is no reason to doubt his birthplace for someone who is conspiracy minded. Look at the site you are on, for Christs sake.

The whole "if you aren't for Obama you are obviously a racist" is stupid and among the lowest forms of argument ever employed in politics. And that is a pretty low bar to fit under, to be honest.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 05:42 PM
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Do you really want to play this game?

This is a two way street. You sure you want to do this?

Any Black American that dares to leave the Democrat party is immediately castigated and exiled. Made fun of. Called "Uncle Tom", "House n*gger".

There is no more hateful party in this nation than the Democrats. You had better get in line and vote with them or you will be subject to verbal abuse for weeks. They are so full of rage and hate towards anyone that doesn't agree with them.

I am really waiting for their meltdown when Obama loses.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 05:50 PM
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For thousands of years, possibly millions, people have been expressing themselves. What is so very different here? IMHO... Obama is an idiot. Obama is a corporate whore. Obama is a crap politician. Obama is a liar. Obama, may or may not be from Chicago, Connecticut, Hawaii, Indonesia, Somalia or Kenya, who cares, send him to Mars, maybe he can do less damage there. It doesn't matter where Obama is from as it's only saving grace is that it is a few brain cells above fecal matter. No prejudice here, except maybe against politicians in general and last I checked, they aren't a "race" (read breed of the species homo erectus) unless of course sociopaths and psychopaths now have "race standing."

Nothing to see here except the usual stretch at calling opinions racial slurs by the Obama bunch.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 06:06 PM
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I don't support any illusional parties because it's waste of time.

As an outsider It's quite funny to see some people are :




Racist?

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posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 06:14 PM
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"Go back to Kenya" because that's where they think he was born. Not racist, but birther 100%.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by Evanzsayz
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John McCain was not born in the US, but on a US military base in Panama, yet his legitimacy as a presidential candidate was never disputed by the birther crowd

Maybe his father was stationed in Panama when he was serving the military or his mother. I don't know the story but I know if that happens it doesn't matter where he is born he is an american and you can't change that.


True. But he definitely wasn't born in the USA.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 06:55 PM
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Disgusting. They should've burnt the shirt into his back.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 06:55 PM
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I would say birthers are more along the lines of mind-numblingly stupid than they are racist but that's just me. Other than that I agree. Things like this distract from the valid critcisms of Obama's presidency.


Originally posted by beezzer
So is it still okay to disagree with him?

Recently I was called a race-traitor because I didn't want him to be president anymore.

Just checking with the resident libs if I can still disagree with the president.

(I won't say nuthin' too bad, promise!)

Originally posted by MrInquisitive
I understand fully how nobody likes being called a racist because it sounds so bad and the term has such a bad connotation, but you know what: if it walks like a racist and talks like a racist, then it's a racist. I'm not by any means claiming that all criticism of Obama is race-based, but I believe a significant component of it is. I'd ask all the Obama haters to really do some self-examination to think about why their animus towards him is so strong. Have you been as biased against any other US president, and have you let issues slide with other presidents that you have held against Obama? If so, you are letting his skin color and background bias your view, and that is racism.
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posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 06:59 PM
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Obama supporters stooping down to playing the race card now, huh?
Any one who doesn't support Obama is racist right? Even if they are black themselves?
Sorry but race has nothing to do with me not liking Obama in any way. Spin it anyway you want, the fact remains that Obama and his administration has failed. Just like George W, especially in his second term.
By the way, liking Obama because he is black is just as racist as the opposite.
You're desperately grasping at straws, my friend. And it shows.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
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Nooses and watermelons are a completely different story....but "go back to Kenya" has to do with the whole birth certificate thing.

99% of the time when you see the accusation of "racist", it is not racist. The claim is almost always agenda driven.

Besides, common sense would tell you that being racist isn't so much a GOP behavior, but rather the behavior of a racist. If you don't like black folks you will campaign against one who is president, regardless of your political stance.

Climb up out of that mud. You are getting dirty.

All well and good in part, the other part is being political, and using banner talk to exploit it, "Go back to Kenya" is equally applicable to anyone who had origins in Kenya, whether they are POTUS or not, or that they might even want to be a future POTUS. All very singular, IMO. Had Obama been born in Germany, and been a rocket scientist out of the 1940's with a surname of Von Braun who would have given a feck?



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 07:08 PM
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Why do we have to keep putting up with this? True, there are racists amongst the birther crowd. It is PREJUDICED of you to refer to the birther movement as racist though. The media has suppressed the entire movement, except for the portions of it that make it look bad (like Donald Trump and the toothless hicks). There is something very important to consider at hand. Please, take a look at this video, and please stop insulting the intelligence of people who are very intelligent, very informed, and very involved in improving this country.

It's long, but I found it to be of value....just watched it last night.
www.youtube.com...



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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Obama's Kenyan grandmother said she was their at his birth, in Kenya. Many others knew him in the village of his birth. The leader of the Chinese communist part got an Hawaiian birth certificate because anyone can get one. This ain't rocket science. Do you really think that all of the people in a Kenyan village are lying? S h i t for brains, smarten up.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by smurfy

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
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Nooses and watermelons are a completely different story....but "go back to Kenya" has to do with the whole birth certificate thing.

99% of the time when you see the accusation of "racist", it is not racist. The claim is almost always agenda driven.

Besides, common sense would tell you that being racist isn't so much a GOP behavior, but rather the behavior of a racist. If you don't like black folks you will campaign against one who is president, regardless of your political stance.

Climb up out of that mud. You are getting dirty.

All well and good in part, the other part is being political, and using banner talk to exploit it, "Go back to Kenya" is equally applicable to anyone who had origins in Kenya, whether they are POTUS or not, or that they might even want to be a future POTUS. All very singular, IMO. Had Obama been born in Germany, and been a rocket scientist out of the 1940's with a surname of Von Braun who would have given a feck?



I am not a birther. I think that it is a moot point where he was born. I just think that the OP deliberately misrepresented what the phrase "Go back to Kenya" means, and everyone in the US knows it. So why the deliberate obfuscation?

As it regards Von Braun....i am a firm believer that we should have had him in the stockade and never given him a moment of freedom.

I spent the morning on Friday with one of the scientists who worked on The Manhattan Project. He was also in San Antonio while Project Paperclip Germans were being brought in. While I liked the guy (his son is my boss), it still have that acrid taste from the association in San Antonio.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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HOLY #....HOLD THE PRESSES.

There are conservative racists out there!! There are also people who think he is a Muslim and born in Kenya. Does that mean all conservatives do? A majority of conservatives? Nope. As the OP stated, it is HIS OPINION, and that is all there is to that.

Why do people dislike Obama? Because some of us think his policies have failed completely. That his you didn't do that and spread the wealth sounds like socialism to me.....and basically like a lot of liberals, you have this smug attitude that you THINK you have the monopoly on what is good and right and the rest of us don't know any better.

(and just take a look at how aggressive the liberal ATS crowd has gotten lately, please take note of this, liberals may preach peace and love for the people.....that is until you disagree with them....it will be interesting how the liberal crowd reacts when Obama fails to get his second term)
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posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 08:26 PM
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Most racists are so stupid that they think people believe them when they say..."I'm not racist"

We don't believe you!



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 08:30 PM
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Your first example with Tommy Thompson's son saying they had an opportunity to send him back to Kenya is absolutely non racist.. Not seeing how you could perceive that as racist.

If a president was thought to have been born in say, Sweden, and they said they had an opportunity to send him/her back to Sweden, would that be racist? or does this only happen with African countries and their peoples?

I remember insiders hinting that the race card would be used heavily in the re-election, and they were sure correct... Albeit, flawed and un polished methods are certainly being attempted..

The one with the watermellon and the noose is a much better example of racism, but your first example is not even at the level of "grasping at straws"..

In my opinion, the last thing anyone would need (not at all would be better) is any racially negative stuff to use against obama, just looking at all his wakes of destruction and irrepairable damage he has done to America with his marxist and socialist agendas should be enough to convince any sane person that he is unfit to lead any country at all..

What obama offers americans for the future is our own noose to put all of our heads into so we can have our american dream choked to death.. Alot of american dreams have already been murdered by this administration...



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 08:40 PM
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Birtherism has racial overtones. If you deny that, then you either are very ignorant or you agree with the sentiment.


Quit pretending that there is no reason to doubt his birthplace for someone who is conspiracy minded. Look at the site you are on, for Christs sake.


Not everything is a conspiracy. The only people that think the question of Obama's birthplace hasn't been completely answered are not really looking for the answers. They have already made up their mind and they are only looking for "answers" that fit their pre-concieved conclusion.


The whole "if you aren't for Obama you are obviously a racist" is stupid and among the lowest forms of argument ever employed in politics. And that is a pretty low bar to fit under, to be honest.


The only people stating this argument are anti-Obama people. No one, including myself, has suggested that this is the case.

What we are saying is that there is in fact racism in some of the anti-Obama rhetoric.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by HostileApostle
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Birtherism has racial overtones. If you deny that, then you either are very ignorant or you agree with the sentiment.


Quit pretending that there is no reason to doubt his birthplace for someone who is conspiracy minded. Look at the site you are on, for Christs sake.


Not everything is a conspiracy. The only people that think the question of Obama's birthplace hasn't been completely answered are not really looking for the answers. They have already made up their mind and they are only looking for "answers" that fit their pre-concieved conclusion.


The whole "if you aren't for Obama you are obviously a racist" is stupid and among the lowest forms of argument ever employed in politics. And that is a pretty low bar to fit under, to be honest.


The only people stating this argument are anti-Obama people. No one, including myself, has suggested that this is the case.

What we are saying is that there is in fact racism in some of the anti-Obama rhetoric.


"Racial overtones" is another way of saying, "I don't like it so i will call it racist because I have seen some racist moron who supported birther viewpoints to meet his own racist needs".

Now, I don't disagree that there is racism in some of the anti-obama rhetoric. I also think that there is as much, if not more, racism in pro-obama rhetoric.

So what is your point here? That people, on the whole, suck? yes, yes we do.






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