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reply posted on 15-10-2012 @ 03:22 PM by EllaMarina
reply to post by Evanzsayz



I'll hold out my own amazement at circlemaker ingenuity when one of the most complex masterpieces is replicated in all of its specifics.
Overnight.


reply posted on 15-10-2012 @ 04:03 PM by VoidHawk
reply to post by Chadwickus


Hi Chad.
As always you present some interesting questions, and your own theories

I'd like to ask you a couple of questions.
1. Do you believe ALL crop circles are man made?
2. A few circles show the crop has been laid down in a woven pattern, and would require the work to be done by hand (no planks) which would take days of hard work even for a gang of people, yet like most CC's they appear overnight, how would you explain this?

I agree that many/most circles are obviously man made, but there are a few that defy the idea that they were made using planks and markers and lead one to the idea that if they ARE man made then it must have taken millitary style planning to achieve the result in so few hours, and that leads to the question of who? and why?
I know you are of the opinion that CC's are easily made, but personaly I think they are not quite as easy as you seem to think.

A freind of mine was of a very simmilar opinion as your own and so I asked him to draw on paper the pattern that we can see in the circle below. I gave him pen paper and an hour to produce a good likeness. After just a few minutes he gave up, but still maintained that it would be easy.

Link

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reply posted on 15-10-2012 @ 06:38 PM by chrismarco
reply to post by TheLieWeLive



There will never be a serious study because they are man made....of all the things some higher intelligence would do to convey information why for a crop circle...the average person does not look at fringe news...this is definately from a few pretty talented people....adveritsers may want to take note..



reply posted on 15-10-2012 @ 06:59 PM by rabzdguy
reply to post by operation mindcrime



they dont have an eye for detail..but yet they create a masterpiece of work..

nice try..


reply posted on 15-10-2012 @ 07:36 PM by shepseskaf
reply to post by chrismarco



Do yourself a favor and look at "Crop Circles Quest for Truth" over at YouTube. There is far more to these anomalies than can be explained by a flat "they're all man-made" explanation. That line of reasoning just doesn't wash.

Some of the circles are far too complicated to be man-made, especially given the typically short amount of time given for their construction.

And, contrary to your statement, I think its the perfect methodology for an extraterrestrial intelligence to communicate. The complex circles are based on mathematical relationships. Math and numbers are a recognized universal language.


reply posted on 15-10-2012 @ 10:43 PM by Ironclad
Originally posted by Sublimecraft
reply to
post by predator0187



Good find, wonderful pattern as well.

That little circle at the bottom RHS of the pic is interesting - wonder what that is meant to be?

Let the games begin...........

S&F


Some Wiccan ppls may be able to tell you, since it is a symbol that comes up in Wicca a bit.

2nd


reply posted on 15-10-2012 @ 11:35 PM by Wide-Eyes
Originally posted by predator0187
Source







Any thoughts?

Pred...


See the little circle outside the big one. Notice the tracks leading to it? Obviously man made but very cool. SnF, thanks for posting.

reply to post by Chadwickus



I agree with you on this one...
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reply posted on 16-10-2012 @ 03:41 AM by denver22
Originally posted by Jimbowsk
reply to
post by 12voltz



From what I've read the farmers are usually in on it as they can charge people to come onto their land and see the crop circles first hand. Tours are even set up charging parties to visit the circles - money's always a good incentive for a hoax.


My job as security looking after buildings i have been all over britains countryside and sorry to
burst alot of peoples bubbles but i have met people responsible and YES the farmers are in on it.

The land at the time rented out so to speak and the pubs full, inns full, shops sold out of goods.
Sorry folks...

Ohh and cider drank dry....


reply posted on 16-10-2012 @ 05:24 AM by Chadwickus
reply to post by VoidHawk



I am of the belief that all crop circles are man made but I do want to learn more about specific traits that people have used to identify what differentiates (to them) a man made vs non-man made crop circle.

The most common one, is the blown nodes. It seems that many like to argue that because a few crop circles from 10 years ago had blown nodes that all should...yet I can't recall any recent crop circle where these blown nodes were ever found. Not saying it hasn't happened, just that I haven't hear of it in contemporary circles. Which is why in this thread and another, I have asked the question for people who claim blown nodes to give me specific crop circles.

Can you link me to any specific crop circles showing the woven effect that you describe?

As for the ease of making crop circles, like anything a bit of practice and knowledge goes a long way.

Massive construction projects can be built perfectly to a schedule, why can't a crop circle be done with similar efficiency?


reply posted on 16-10-2012 @ 05:50 AM by Vitruvian
LATEST

Windmill Hill, nr Avebury Trusloe, Wiltshire. Reported 14th October.

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reply posted on 16-10-2012 @ 06:08 AM by Chadwickus
reply to post by facedye



I've done up a quick animation to break it down better (I hope).



STEP 1
The basic circle line is marked out

STEP 2
The line is thickened to be two board widths wide

STEP 3
The four sides of the square is marked out and stepped out with plank

STEP 4
Working from the straight edges they "fill" in out to the circle

STEP 5
A grid will be pegged and string lined out as a guide. The pattern inside is essentially a whole heap of inter-connected boxes

You will note there are several imperfections with their "grid" too...

STEP 6
Once the lines and boxes are there, the small circles are quite easy to add last


reply posted on 16-10-2012 @ 06:42 AM by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by predator0187



When you look at this circle for a while, you can actually see that its not all that beautiful as some of you say.... its a bit untidy actually.... look properly, its not Symmetrical and I don't think Aliens would come and do this, not travel all this way to do this..... however, there are crop circles which are perfectly printed out on Fields and these could be Extra-Terrestrial but not from here... being transferred from another dimension!!


reply posted on 16-10-2012 @ 07:12 AM by Morg234

Go out into the wild and find an ants nest. Now tell those ants you want to speak to their leader.
reply to
post by VoidHawk



The ant analogy is flawed.

We as humans have already passed the era of having the constant threat of predatory species and/or extreme environmental threats and changes. Hence we will remain humanoid for eons, as would an alien species that followed a similar evolutionary path, regardless of how far ahead they are and whether they are interstellar.

It would be more akin to us and a tribe, although even that is too harsh given jet propulsion and electron microscopes.


reply posted on 16-10-2012 @ 07:54 AM by colloredbrothers
reply to post by Argyll



Mistery solves as far as I'm concerened, never seen this before and I was undecided on the issue. Great video.
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