Originally posted by luxordelphi
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by luxordelphi
Although you claim to be replying to me, you still haven't answered my question: What instrument did you use? If you did not use an instrument, your
observation is meaningless. You cannot observe an object at the zenith while standing upright. Unless you are a mutant, your neck is incapable of
bending at a ninety degree angle. That is why objects above (around) sixty degrees elevation appear to be "overhead."
I guess you've never heard of lawn chairs. They can be extended and flattened so that they are perpendicular to the zenith (90 degrees or, more
commonly - directly overhead.) (I was out waiting for the libration event lol.) I'm asking myself, at this moment, what's wrong with this picture?
And I'm answering myself saying that I think I've stumbled into a circus.
So, I'm afraid I have to agree with everyone else: your observations are meaningless without a machined tooled markers to show us that in fact what
you are observing is directly overhead or within 2 to 3 degrees.
I've tried being nice, but you reply with sarcasm. While I won't stoop to that level, I'll simply be blunt at this point (and now I know why Phage
answers this way........being nice on here never works).....
You have already shown us in other threads that your eyesight can not be trusted (surprise, surprise.....most humans can't, so don't feel alone),
including in this thread, where you can not even see that the LOS of one camera is the same.
And before you go on claiming that it still is, I'd like to point out this: NOT ONE PERSON HAS COME HERE TO SUPPORT THAT CLAIM. NOT ONE, SINCE WE
HAVE OVERLAYED THE PICTURES.
Two: you have repeatedly shown that when it comes to astronomy your knowledge equates to: diddly squat.
For example, you said:
Why is this significant: The Pleiades, the moon, the sun and zodiac stars all travel within a certain area - the ecliptic - from our earth point
of view. At mid-latitudes, like 38 degrees N, they should never appear directly overhead.
This is flat out, completely, totally WRONG.
First, do some reading. Educate yourself on terms, especially if you are going to use them. Maybe in the future, you'll learn to use them
Put simply, the ecliptic is the plane of Earth's orbit around the Sun.
The moon has several properties about it. Many of the statistics about the moon have a word proceeding it:
"Mean" aka - "Average". This denotes that values with that word proceeding it are not absolute, but vary.
Orbit Of The Moon
Mean eccentricity 0.0549006 (0.026 – 0.077)
Mean inclination of orbit to ecliptic 5.14° (4.99 – 5.30)
Mean obliquity 6.58°
Mean inclination of lunar equator to ecliptic 1.543°
Right Ascension: 3h 47m 24s
Declination: +24° 7
According to YOU, these two things, and all the stars and the sun, are in the Ecliptic.......a infinite circular plane that the Earth's orbit lays
And that is utter, complete, BS.
If that were true....every thing in the sky would be in a single line on edge to us. Every thing.
If all you an do is sit there and spout on about what your eyes see, and make fantastic claims, with nothing to back it up other than your eyes. Then
that is all it is: a fantastic claim, with no proof, from someone who can't see, with absolutely no knowledge in this area. None.