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Yes it is. I'm glad you realize that it is the same line of sight now. And as can be seen on the website, it is centered on the NE. NNW is at the far left side of the field of view and ENE (where the Moon rises) is at the far right. It is not aimed NW. NW is 315º. See the azimuth numbers on the bottom of the image? Not 315º
In this video you'll see the NNW facing web cam from the site you linked. That's the web cam that the video I put up was made from.
His claim, in a nutshell, is that east is west. Who knew?
Originally posted by ColAngus
reply to post by CherubBaby
I took a break from ATS because I figured I'd hit the wall with all the Planet X nonsense. There's only so much you can do with folks dead-set on believing in fairy tales. I thought for sure time would be the great leveller, and Nibiru Truthers would eventually give up since at some point the continual absence of any evidence whatsoever would be debilitating to the movement.
But here you guys are keeping that doom-flame alive. It's oddly comforting, I have to admit. To quote the Dude: "It's down there somewhere, let me take another look."
Keep on keeping on.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by Phage
Do you really think I'm fooled by sleight of hand? It's almost perverse how the internet gets manipulated. That view is the NE view of yesterday. Line of site. Changing the label doesn't change the line of site. What's the big deal anyway? Is it because something is rising in the NW or NNW? Is that why the web cams are off-line or mislabeled.
Don't you want to put up a view from October or September of the moon rising so that we can compare it with the NW view in the video I put up. That doesn't seem to be available on the site either.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
Originally posted by chika98
reply to post by luxordelphi
Even with all the warnings, which should not be needed or required because common sense tells you what lies ahead, people will still behave in their current nature. Something major has to happen before they can feel the desire to really attempt to accept those warnings and do something about them. We don't need outside help to see this, it's not even logically complex, it's a matter of being present, and realizing. So despite all warnings and that they have been given and continue.... ultimately, it's our own responsibility.
And Amen to that but still if I feel like a change in behavior could avert the worst...I'm going to try and say what I think. And I think we're in twilight and so there's still a chance...
Yes, you have been fooled by a youtube poster.
Do you really think I'm fooled by sleight of hand? It's almost perverse how the internet gets manipulated.
That's right. It was the line of sight yesterday and it was the same line of sight in January.The line of sight is to the NE, just like it was in January. The view is exactly the same. It is looking in the same direction. Look at the current videos. The Sun rises in the east. The stars rise in the east. The view is to the NE.
That view is the NE view of yesterday. Line of site. Changing the label doesn't change the line of site.
The youtube poster lied. The view in the video you put up is not to the NW, it is to the NE. I gave you a link to videos in which you can see the Sun rise. I gave you a link to videos in which you can see the stars rise. All with the same line of sight. They all rise in the east just like the Moon did in January. In a couple of weeks you will again be able to see the Moon rise.
Don't you want to put up a view from October or September of the moon rising so that we can compare it with the NW view in the video I put up.
Phage has explained in a way a 3rd grader would understand, are you purposely being obtuse?
The view is exactly the same.
Your inability to observe is not my problem. I'm beginning to suspect that you have never actually debunked anything to do with Planet X. Your continued refusal to address the line of site, the missing NW web cam and your derailing efforts (strobes) are not appreciated. There are few people in this world today that would agree that everything is normal. Arrogance is the stance of the insecure.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by eriktheawful
I appreciate the effort you put into your post. And your avoidance of thread derailing strobes. However, your submission is not helpful and it is misleading. There is no need to go to Google or Stellarium. Take a screen shot of one of the first few frames in the video and then a screen shot around the same time of the NE web cam. Anyone of reasonable intelligence can see that the line of site is different. I had several people look at it just to be sure that I wasn't alone in my observation.
It is true that the startling thing there is to see in the video I put up requires some knowledge of astronomy. That is in poor supply on ATS. Maybe it's in poor supply in the general population - I don't know. But I do know that most people can see a difference in line of site if they're looking for it. It's not really that confusing. Turn off the volume, ignore the graphics and watch the video. Then look at the same time frame on the NE web cam.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by eriktheawful
Take a screen shot of one of the first few frames in the video and then a screen shot around the same time of the NE web cam. Anyone of reasonable intelligence can see that the line of site is different. I had several people look at it just to be sure that I wasn't alone in my observation.
Don't you want to put up a view from October or September of the moon rising so that we can compare it with the NW view in the video I put up. That doesn't seem to be available on the site either.
Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by luxordelphi
Don't you want to put up a view from October or September of the moon rising so that we can compare it with the NW view in the video I put up. That doesn't seem to be available on the site either.
And when they do put up the pics are you willing to admit you were wrong, because as I see it you are willingly advocating what one could say is a HOAX?
As been shown more than once that the web cam is in fact facing NE and not NW,so how is it you still stick by this you tubers word and keep saying it is facing NW?
Here you go, as you challenged me to provide a side by side screen shots of both the frame from the YouTube video and from the actual web cam.
Speaking of inability to observe, please re-watch the video. In what direction do the shadows move? Away from the camera, toward the rising object, right? Which direction does the Sun set? Work it out.