posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 12:59 PM
They say, time away makes the heart grow fonder.... Well, we'll see.
Recently, I was on a thread here that started interestingly enough and it was a Cop Bash party so I know it's not a high welcome to anyone who has
more than a 'kill 'em all' attitude toward men and women in Law Enforcement. It's not the disagreement that gets me. (If I'd expected different,
I'd have been a fool, indeed) That thread became the a decent example of what has pushed me off the site for awhile, though.
Not much choice...it's become too much and the low class gutter fighting has finally taken the enjoyment out of ATS entirely for me.
We don't debate topics anymore in FAR FAR too many cases. We all debate people. Other members. "You're a shill" "You're
stupid" "I can't believe you..." "What is wrong with..." and on and on. Topics are enjoyable to debate. PEOPLE are tabloid garbage other sites
thrive on and I'd hoped not to see take over here. Sadly, at this moment in time, I have to say, it HAS taken over ATS and beyond that
point I can stomach for awhile.
I'm hoping when the election has come and past.....whoever wins......some basic sense of civility will return or Mods will do what they're there for
and stop holding back for whatever reason they have lately.
T&C needs ENFORCED on ATS, otherwise it may as well just accept being the BIG version of a Godlike place. It's what it's become with the personal
fighting damn near every thread with any disagreement of ANY kind and God help anything political for it.
I know how vicious politics are. The two parties and sides have Americans hating each other as if we truly were enemies of respective nations on a
foreign field of battle. The POLITICIANS benefit enormously from the citizens ready to kill each other. NO ONE ELSE DOES.
WE'RE AMERICANS DAMNIT!! WE AREN'T BANANA REPUBLIC SCHOOL CHILDREN FIGHTING OVER CLASS PRESIDENT AND WE ARE STILL AMERICANS THE DAY AFTER THE
ELECTION!! REMEMBER? ! ? ! ? !
If we've lost the ability to even debate with civility and decency, then we've lost the right to even ASK for the respect of the world or our own
peers. When debate cannot be held without NAME calling,...EVER ONE DAMN TIME...then we have intellect below the level of intelligent debate and it
won't work well or for long. As we see now, every day here.
** Very specifically to those on the Left who have led the gutter fighting charge to tear down and beat up ANYTHING more right of center than Nancy
Pelosi. You win..... I wanted to be a part of a balance and showing the right side of politics....but I just can't match the level of venom and hate
some people carry like an old friend and treasure. It's self-destructive to keep trying to match it. To those for whom HATE doesn't come as a
natural thing, it's too damn much to spend so much effort with people who DO know the emotion as a primary one.
I cannot and WILL NOT go on TRYING to match that black, ugly core of emotion driving that hate and absolute total intolerance.
Frankly, I shouldn't HAVE TO...and what has made ATS special has been the fact NO ONE HAD TO. Now? Hell... It's FIGHT or be destroyed if you don'
conform with the majority of a thread for opinion on Politics or ebents of the day on FAR FAR FAR too many topics now. It's not JUST Cop Bash
threads....It's Military, Government (From city to Federal and EVERYTHING in between), Politicians (Unless they are the "right kind"...then they
can DO NO WRONG. EVER). It's the way you can't even make a passing political post not even intended to BE partisan without being stomped by one or
both sides in short order.
^^^ That's more to for the new people..who don't understand this isn't ATS as it recently was.....this is the Jungle War edition and ambush may be
sitting just around the next 'Submit' button.
So it is.... I'm leaving for awhile. Not the whole site. I know it's an absolute SHOCK to some...but ATS has a hell of a lot more than
politics. However, politically? I'm done. Folks can have their partisan gang fight for the next few weeks....and we all lose at the end. I'll see
if it's possible to have a discussion or debate WITHOUT personal emotion bringing personal hate directly into other people's faces...after
Right now, debate here on anything political without personal attack and fighting is like going to a boxing match and asking to give peace a chance.
I'm the damn fool for even asking, looking or wanting it. Any of it....as I seem to be ALONE in the desire. SO MANY others are taking to
the new combat ATS like fish to water and loving every minute. Well..