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posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:35 PM
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So if Jesus' words are saying you can only see Father through him, how can anyone see Father who lives in a cycle once yet never heard of Jesus? Why would Jesus say these words?


It means exactly what is written. Even those who have not heard of him, Brother still speaks to Father on their behalf, if that makes sense. If you don't believe, and go through judgement, you will have to go through Brother, as Father left this up to him.




posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:37 PM
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Don't depend solely on jhill, just as you wouldn't solely depend on your guides. He does give great information, but i believe he does not want to and can't overstep his boundaries, unless for specific reasons that have too many variables to account for by the human perception.


Correct. I cannot do this, otherwise Father will remove me from said person.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:40 PM
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I also want to confirm that when you speak of "the book", do you mean akashic records? (I Read about those as well...)


No, as the books I am speaking of, only one is allowed to look into them that is part of above, unless it is Brother on up. (Father, his spirits, Mother, Brother)



I have read many books on this subject and a lot if not all of the information provided in your thread were identical to what I had read. Except for the quoted text above. In a book called the Gaia Project, a lot of what you mention here is also mentionned within the book, but according to the book, the dinausaurs were in fact one of the first times that humans were "erased" to start over, they would have be sent to earth by creator to wipe us out, and when they took over the whole planet (not planned), he sent in the comet to wipe them out. And we spawned again. I am not saying this to dubunk anything! as I have said, I read about what you say here in many books and I really really believe all of this. What is your take on this?


Humans and dinosaurs didn't exist together. Dinosaurs were the original vessels for man. Then man, took on the shape as you see him today. When Father said, let us make man in our image, he was speaking of what everyone else looks like above.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:42 PM
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Sometimes we are at a point in our lives to where it's difficult to have the bond we want with Father and his helpers.


I understand this. But, also look at it from the viewpoint of above. Father speaks to many, yet they do not listen, and yet he was the one whom created all. How does you think he feels when his creation does not listen. In my learning here, I had to feel of this feeling, and I do not like of it.



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 04:47 AM
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Originally posted by jhill76

*Also, all fear, doubt, and unbelief must leave you.
(no reason given)


Wow very interesting, now I know why I struggle, I have doubt, and possibly unbelief, too many questions don't know what to believe....



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 04:50 PM
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Dear Jhill. correct me if am wrong. from what you wrote, i can understand that you have a connection with a higher beings. the Father you have mentioned should be all known. any way. I wish for you to prove your claims for me and for the rest of ATSers in here. I have seen a special phenomena. if Father could give you any information on what i saw. or maybe any information about me. I'd believe every word you say, and I'd try to learn from you. just prove to me that you are for real.

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posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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Jhill, you said you were going to reply to my PM weeks ago lol. Where is your reply?



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by Philippines
 




So if Jesus' words are saying you can only see Father through him, how can anyone see Father who lives in a cycle once yet never heard of Jesus? Why would Jesus say these words?


It means exactly what is written. Even those who have not heard of him, Brother still speaks to Father on their behalf, if that makes sense. If you don't believe, and go through judgement, you will have to go through Brother, as Father left this up to him.


Thanks for the response, glad you're back =)

So for those who have not heard of him, Brother speaks on their behalf in what way? Allowing them? Is there any scripture on this?

I'm really interested in an answer here because I don't think it is directly addressed in the bible this way.

If Brother speaks on behalf of those who have not heard of him, then why even try to convert people to Christianity?

Something just doesn't seem right to me...



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by Philippines

Originally posted by jhill76
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So if Jesus' words are saying you can only see Father through him, how can anyone see Father who lives in a cycle once yet never heard of Jesus? Why would Jesus say these words?


It means exactly what is written. Even those who have not heard of him, Brother still speaks to Father on their behalf, if that makes sense. If you don't believe, and go through judgement, you will have to go through Brother, as Father left this up to him.


Thanks for the response, glad you're back =)

So for those who have not heard of him, Brother speaks on their behalf in what way? Allowing them? Is there any scripture on this?

I'm really interested in an answer here because I don't think it is directly addressed in the bible this way.

If Brother speaks on behalf of those who have not heard of him, then why even try to convert people to Christianity?

Something just doesn't seem right to me...


Why convert people to Christianity? To be a Christian is to be Christ-like, which is to love your neighbor (enemies included), do good, and believe in Father and its really for their benefit and the worlds, but things have become so messed up even during Jesus's time in the flesh in my opinion.



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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You lost me at the "Jesus" test question! Why would anyone who doesn't believe in that religion's belief system use it? So, essentially, you are saying this is only available to Christians. Just my opinion, of course.

Actually, IS that what you are saying?



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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I haven't been able to do it since I was a pre-teen child.

Don't think I will be able to get it back either. Too much fluoride I guess.



posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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So I've only tried to meditate 3 times assuming meditating is just sitting very still, relaxing, and clearing your mind. Today I thought I'd try again and after about a half hour I think (wasn't looking at the clock) I had become very relaxed and all of a sudden I felt a pulse or jolt and my mind began to race. I didn't really have questions but my mind was flying. I began to feel like I was spinning and a little lighter. My body was tingly too. Then I began to only think that I need to get back to work and it was over. Do you know what that pulse or wave was? It didn't feel like electricity but a jolt or pulse. Tried to pm you but don't have enough posts.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by Ellie Sagan
You lost me at the "Jesus" test question! Why would anyone who doesn't believe in that religion's belief system use it? So, essentially, you are saying this is only available to Christians. Just my opinion, of course.

Actually, IS that what you are saying?


A lot of people can take the label as Christians but the majority that do are not and the ones that don't call themselves Christian by today's standard are Christians.

Christianity has major truths in it, but the ways (doctrines) are messed up as the stuff taught about Jesus are as well.

In the search for truth, the idea of who Jesus Christ is becomes clearer and clearer and the test of asking if Jesus Christ coming in the flesh is essential in order to distinguish who is who. I once asked "Who is Jesus Christ," and some answered me with Jesus Christ. I thought they were skirting the question so I told them to go away.



posted on Dec, 1 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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I will private message you, and give you what you seek. As I do not want to turn this into depend on I, to provide answers. My task is not to be a stepping stone to above.



posted on Dec, 1 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by Ellie Sagan
You lost me at the "Jesus" test question! Why would anyone who doesn't believe in that religion's belief system use it? So, essentially, you are saying this is only available to Christians. Just my opinion, of course.

Actually, IS that what you are saying?


Brother is not only for the Christians, nor does he follow religion (mans view of God).



posted on Dec, 1 2012 @ 10:23 PM
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i think i made it partially out lastnite, i wasn't trying too i just felt an inner quietness and with every breath i was radiating a white aura around my body which got bigger and bigger!!
cant remember much after that



posted on Dec, 3 2012 @ 01:21 AM
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Jhill, why havent you replied to my PM, as you said that you would over a month ago?



posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 09:02 AM
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the last aprox two years have been so strange for me ! all my life especally after i was about 19 years old i have had dreams and premonitions that have come true even strangly enough they have come to me years before they happen i have spent most of my life trying to ignore it and i felt that i was different than everyone els and it made me very uneasy but in the last two or three years it has been very strong and ive somewhat ecepted it i guess you could say. aprox a year and a half ago i was really searching for answers to some very deep subjects like comparing different religionsand spirituality, beliefs, cultures, civilations. i really found myself being drawn to issues of dreams and meditation as i was what i felt getting closer to the answers i was looking for some family issues came up and everything that was suppose to be going well for me crumbled before my eyes! i was so frustrated and i felt like giving up. i was in a way forced to travel half way across the country and be around people i really didnt want to be and i was about one hour away from their house and i had a very uneasy feeling come over me and it kept growing..then i stopped dead in my tracks and went to a friends instead(someone that i had not known for very long) while visiting this friend i went for a walk and i started to pass a house that was dark and looked like no one was home as i continued down the road somthing stopped me a feeling i cant explain so i walked up to the house as i did i felt the pressence of two dogs(later found out that they lived there just at another time before) the owner of the home came to the door and i introduced myself and we began to talk and to make a long story short everything that we talked about was the same . same life happenings same likes same dislikes and the people that we secretly wished to be with in the past we quickly realized was eachother it was very intense when we spoke to each other for the next couple of weeks we were so shocked at what one would say that we often had a moment of speachlesness veerything was the same even the food we loved the habbits pet peevs prefences it was so bad that we teased one another about being twins BUT then we started thinking each others thoughts several times! i do belive this was whom i wished for and i did already know that i was suppose to meet them very close to the end of this world or at a big turning point of it. please tell me what you think of this i would love your opinion p.s. its not exactly hapily ever after like i thought it would be i think they have a personality dissorder and i am worried i feel like i am about to go through somthing and they wont be able to go if they cant change for the better. i feel it but i dont know what it means and its strong i know we both know we were suppose to meet for this time peroid in our lives ..there is so much more i could tell you that would blow your mind




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posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by Jameliel
Jhill, why havent you replied to my PM, as you said that you would over a month ago?


I wouldn't lose sleep over it, nor invest any emotion into this. He is providing perceptive answers but not backing them up with anything substantial.



posted on Dec, 7 2012 @ 11:34 PM
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Yes I know this. In as much as he lied about replying to me, I sense deception. A tree's fruits show what kind of tree it is=)





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