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Originally posted by ConspiracyBuff
Um vote for Gary Johnson (who will be on the ballot in all 50 states) or write-in Ron Paul, and if your feeling froggy even Cthulhu.....
Originally posted by alternateuniverse
You have the freedom to do whatever you like. How about putting your head in a guillotine for the next four years?
Originally posted by Kovenov
reply to post by alternateuniverse
But, to sit out this election and reflect upon your in-action during the next four years or even the rest of your lives is very Un-American.
As Americans, “we” always say, “You have no right to complain, if you didn’t vote.”
I don't accept as true either of these statements.
One, is it true that choosing not to vote is un-American? If so then why? Would choosing not to vote be un-American because, meeting applicable requirements, there is a right to vote?
Would it be un-American if, say, a man or woman chose not to own a firearm despite that, meeting applicable requirements, there is a right to own firearms? Would not owning a firearm mean that a person does not have the right to defend against aggression?
Maybe you have a point in mind that justifies your evident belief that not voting is un-American, but I have know idea what it is.
Two, "we" is preceded by an "I" or "me". Put another way there is no such thing as a body of Americans that is not comprised of individual people. Do all these individual people who comprise the United States believe, "You have no right to complain if you did not vote"? I certainly don't, and I am a U.S. citizen. So much for we.
False dichotomies come to mind in that 1) depending on whether you voted you are either American or un-American and 2) depending on whether you voted you either have a right to complain or you do not have a right to complain.
With regard to point 1 I see no reason why exercising the right to choose what someone may decide is the lesser of two evils should be offerred as a valid option. It's sort of like the executioner asking you, "Would you prefer I cut off your head face up or face down?" Either way your head is coming off. And as for point 2, what right are you referring to? Rather, what absence of right are you referring to? I presume you were being as general as you were when invoking the we meme, but I have no idea what right you're talking about. No one may complain unless they cast a vote for the lesser of two evils? Only then you may complain, despite that you cast your lot with the lesser-of-two-evils candidate? Would you even have the right to complain if the lesser-of-two-evils candidate you voted for won? After all, your vote aided in putting him or her in office!
edit on 14-10-2012 by Kovenov because: type
Originally posted by calstorm
The only thing I am undecided on is whether or not to write in Ron Paul or vote for Garry Johnson. I will be voting however.
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Voting is a right, not a requirement. So if i choose to not vote, then I still retain my right to free speech. That is a stupid saying....people abstain from voting for many reasons. Me, in this cycle? I don't see a candidate worthy of my vote. Put whichever of those two tools in office you want, i don't care. Flip a coin for all I care. I am tired of having to choose between two dung piles for POTUS.