reply to post by beezzer
you are right on the money beezzer
the root problem is ADDICTION. addiction can be very hard to beat. i know a mother's friend told me once as i had once again been trying to kick the
smoking habit, that even tho she QUIT OVER 50 YEARS AGO, that she STILL suffers from an urge to light up and that it can be a rather STRONG
TEMPTATION. she has been a reformed smoker LONGER then she even smoked. yet still has major urges to smoke.
i had one friend who had quit for over FIVE YEARS, he got to the point he could not take it anymore and started smoking again.
i know myself when i had no income for several months i ended up scouring the streets picking up butts to re-roll so i could smoke, otherwise i went a
ask almost any rehabilitated alcoholic about it and they will generally say they can't safely have even ONE DRINK or they would be right back to
being an alcoholic.
that says something about the POWER of ADDICTION. so we are expecting people to just quit smoking and drinking just because they are not given the
money to do it?
yeah ok that will work......NOT.
like the bunny says it would just cause a nasty black market situation. in the end it would actually cause MORE HARM to the kids in the family (for
those worried about the fact that kids suffer from parents buying this stuff using their welfare money). i can already see what will happen. instead
of paying say $10/pack (using pricing from my area), what will end up happening is that some enterprising people (mafia/gang types especially), will
end up taking say $20 worth of FOOD for that $10 pack of smokes. so the family will suffer from lack of food even more. so how does this measure
actually help anyone other than criminals?
i really wish that people ESPECIALLY those in the GOVERNMENT would actually LEARN from HISTORY. just how EFFECTIVE was PROHIBITION? all it did was to
create criminal activity to supply the booze people wanted. it DID NOTHING TO ACTUALLY STOP PEOPLE DRINKING. much like the "war on drugs" has done
nothing to keep people from using drugs, and like prohibition just gives the CRIMINALS MONEY, even if a shipment of drugs is confiscated they still
don't loose money as they just raise the selling price to cover it. and people who are addicted can do nothing but pay, which of course just causes
MORE CRIME so they can afford it. one hell of a vicious circle the GOVERNMENT has CREATED.
what is really sad is BECAUSE of the "WAR ON DRUGS" some people CAN NOT AFFORD TO WORK LEGALLY FOR A LIVING. i am NOT BEING SARCASTIC IN THIS. i
have done some work for a friend, he pays EXTREMELY well, i made more money working for him (perfectly legal work), then i made at my full time job in
a day. well one day he asked a street beggar he knows and has used before to help out for the day. this BEGGAR apologetically REFUSED THE WORK. now
why would he do that? after all doesn't he want money?
the problem is that he has a $300/day crack ADDICTION that he NEEDS to PAY FOR, in effect
by working with us he would LOOSE too much MONEY. now this particular BUM trys to avoid criminal activity as much as he can, he does not like jail.
but i know it certainly opened my eyes to the reality of some things, when it happened. i was rather shocked at his refusal.
so anyone that thinks that by using a card you will stop people spending money they shouldn't on cigarettes, alcohol and drugs will actually work
NEEDS THEIR FRIGGEN HEAD EXAMINED. heck i understand that there is or at least was a major black market for exchanging FOOD STAMPS for DRUGS.
if they REALLY want to do something to make sure too much money is not spent on these things then i only really see 2 ways to do it. one is to GIVE
these people the stuff FREE. even THAT will cause a black market as people who don't use that stuff will of course STILL take it, and trade it for
what THEY want. not to mention would DRIVE UP people on welfare as why the hell should they WORK to get what others get free. the other way would be
to REDUCE the price (at least for the LEGAL stuff), to make it more affordable for everyone. i know i would be rather pissed at paying more for the
same thing just because i'm NOT on welfare. and because i know someone is bound to say that the high price is to stop people from smoking/drinking.
if you REALLY BELIEVE that i can offer you several bridges and buildings at a good price.
(just kidding). the thing is no one i know who smokes
has stopped because of the high price, most will do without things like food instead. the thing is HIGH PRICES DO NOT MAKE ADDICTION EASIER TO
OVERCOME, in fact the stress from high prices tend to make people smoke and drink more to combat said stress. just like the fact of drug testing for a
job doesn't make people stop using drugs, it just means that they have to steal to get their drugs