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Ron Paul - “It is no coincidence that the century of total war coincided with the century of centr

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posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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I hope this isnt too off topic

It pains me to say, but i was convinced into joining the military. I was one of the many who joined because of 9/11. I went to Afghanistan thinking i was doing something good for my country. I was 18 of course i believed the lies...lol.

But the military changed me...Woke me up to what was reqlly going on. I knew i was in Afghan for the wrong reasons, i knew our occupation there, and in Iraq, was wrong...thats why i got out (of the military)

But i wish...i pray (to my nonexisting god) that foreign troops step foot here, doing what i was told to do in Afghan. I will be taking up arms...who wouldnt? If you still think the "taliban" are terrorists then there is something wrong. They are just doing what anyone else would do, or maybe its just me...




posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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This is my 1st post on this forum. I've been lurking here for awhile and finally decided to join.

Ron Paul is the man. I love everything he stands for and trust his word. Great thread and I hope more people learn about him. I'm from his area too so thats a plus. Keep up the good info.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 06:53 PM
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YES, Ron Paul says the truth.
However he says it 65 years too late.
The true beginning of the END happened in 1947, when the state of Israel was created.
Now it's just BS talk.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by Troutale87
This is my 1st post on this forum. I've been lurking here for awhile and finally decided to join.

Ron Paul is the man. I love everything he stands for and trust his word. Great thread and I hope more people learn about him. I'm from his area too so thats a plus. Keep up the good info.


And your first star from me! Welcome aboard homie.

As much as I would love to write him in, I don't think it would serve any purpose, I'm voting Gary Johnson. The establishment repubs didn't like RP because he was right on the money about most things, unfortunately I think his ideas scare people because he and his ideas were like nothing average sheep are used to swallowing.

as soon as our society collapses when our money is worthless is when real change will come about, probably in the form of a chaotic bloody revolution.




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posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 07:17 PM
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JESUS, MARY & JOSEPH, THE COMMUNION OF SAINTS AND ALL THE FALLEN ANGELS!

Is this guy still around? Tell him to crawl back under his rock and come out in 3 years to try to screw up the Republican Party in 2015.

I guess I’ll just have to offer up listening to this guy and his minions to the poor souls in purgatory.

I swear I seen this guy under the viaduct on the way to Comiskey Park ( U S Cellular Field for you new fans) pan handling.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by gladtobehere





Awesome video! That's exactly how I feel about our foreign policies.
Now tell me... why isn't this guy running for president?



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
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And I know that Bilderberg Group consider him as a real threat.


A member of the Bilderberg group steering committee (Peter Theil) donated millions to his SuperPac so, they clearly like him.


I don't think "a member" represents "they"

And perhaps the Bilderberg group isn't what everyone thinks they are.



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by Superhans
Ron Paul said a LOT of things



”Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal. These aren’t my figures, that is the assumption you can gather from” the report.”




“The Criminals who terrorize our cities – in riots and on every non-riot day – are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are.”




“I wouldn’t vote against getting rid of the Jim Crow laws.”



“Immigrants can spread diseases for which we may have no immunity. There is also the question of crime and culture. Many immigrants come from countries with different legal structures and are not willing to behave in the way we expect American citizens to behave.”


Yet Ron Paul supporters generally don't seem to accept his views on race.
Just because Ron Paul says something does not make it so


Nothing he said there is wrong.... he read a report that would lead you to the assumption of the views on blacks... they are not his figures.... but they lead to the assumption of what blacks are.... so its not his report not his data and that is the assumption of the report but some how ron paul is credit to thinking this way??

I do not remember the last time white people rioted. I do however remember the LA roits rodney king all that. not saying that white people or any other kind of people riot but if you say riot in the USA I would think blacks.

also most crime is committed by black people, with hispanics a close second. they are more likely to rob you at a gas station than white people. not saying white people would not commit a crime but its just the way it is.



when coming into the country you are supposed to go through a full physical examination to see if you are not carrying any diseases. They run tests on you at least TB from what I remember. THey will get you current on all your vaccinations while there. They do that because immigrants can carry disease... Out government has that in place. The reason why was stated by RP

it is also safe to say that laws in one country are very different in another. if that was not the case why have there been cases where islamist/muslims whatever have killed wife/daughter based on their laws when these women misbehave. When arrested they pretty much did not understand that those kinds of actions are against the law in this country.

Ron Paul: Yeah, I but also know that the Jim Crow laws were illegal and we got rid of them under that same law, and that's all good.

Ron Paul has a very good objective view of things but people do not hear the tried and true responses expected for certain topics so they begin to jump up and down like apes mud flinging and they put a big x over the person


I am not even white and I can see what he means.

TOo many idiots don't get it



posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
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Ron Pauls newsletters said those things, which are really just as bad, because it means he has no sense of oversight and his fan base clearly gets off on whitey should black fear porn (like many on ATS).

The more ridiculous/stupid quotes include;

Of course his cult will somehow defend these quotes too.


The November 1990 issue of the Political Report had kind words for David Duke.



After the Los Angeles riots, one article in a newsletter claimed, "Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks."



On AIDS! "A politically protected disease thanks to payola and the influence of the homosexual lobby that will poison the blood supply."



Beware the “Malicious Gay”: African-Americans are not the only target of the newsletters’ ire. Ron Paul’s publications also feature unusually bad medical advice punctuated with anti-gay fantasies. “Those who don’t commit sodomy, who don’t get a blood transfusion, and who don’t swap needles, are virtually assured of not getting AIDS unless they are deliberately infected by a malicious gay, as was Kimberly Bergalis.”



A March 1993 Survival Report describes Bill Clinton’s supposedly “illegitimate children, black and white: ‘woods colts’ in backwoods slang.”



Instructions on Murdering Black Youth: A 1992 newsletter provided fairly detailed instructions on the best way to shoot and kill an African-American and get away with it. “If you live in a major city, you’ve probably already heard about the newest threat to your life and limb, and your family: carjacking. It is the hip-hop thing to do among the urban youth who play unsuspecting whites like pianos. . . . An ex-cop I know advises that if you have to use a gun on a youth, you should leave the scene immediately, disposing of the wiped off gun as soon as possible. Such a gun cannot, of course, be registered to you, but one bought privately (through the classifieds, for example). I frankly don’t know what to make of such advice, but even in my little town of Lake Jackson, Texas, I’ve urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming.”



Needlin’: Paul’s December 1989 newsletter claims that roving bands of African-Americans are trying to give white people HIV. According to the newsletter, “at least 39 white women have been stuck with used hypodermic needles-perhaps infected with AIDS-by gangs of black girls between the ages of 12 and 14. . . . Who can doubt that if the situation had been reversed, if white girls had done this to black women, we would have been subjected to months-long nation-wide propaganda campaign on the evils of white America? The double standard strikes again.”



One referred to Martin Luther King Jr. as "the world-class philanderer who beat up his paramours" and who "seduced underage girls and boys."



Another referred to Barbara Jordan, a civil rights activist and congresswoman as "Barbara Morondon," the "archetypical half-educated victimologist."



An October 1990 edition of the Political Report ridicules black activists, led by Al Sharpton, for demonstrating at the Statue of Liberty in favor of renaming New York City after Martin Luther King. The newsletter suggests that “Welfaria,” “Zooville,” “Rapetown,” “Dirtburg,”and “Lazyopolis ” would be better alternatives—and says, “Next time, hold that demonstration at a food stamp bureau or a crack house.”



On Homosexuals "Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressures forced them to hide their activities."


www.buzzfeed.com...

And of course is against the civil rights act because of "property rights"......


In May 2011, Paul told MSNBC that he would have voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which ended Jim Crow. He questioned the act because it took authority away from property owners. Evidently, Paul values the rights of racist property owners over those of African Americans whose housing, employment, schooling and leisure activities were all dictated by Jim Crow.


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NO source or nada.

How about i post some things realspoke has said or thinks without actually sourcing.




I like to beat children and women its great!





Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong.




I believe black people are the superior race.

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posted on Oct, 15 2012 @ 11:53 PM
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This much is true but the connection between the two remains unclear.

Like Einstein said - I don't believe god rolls dice.

I could speculate and say the banking system was constructed as a means to fuel the super-elite as well as their military industrial complex at a profit, and to keep this machine running and growing they had to sustain multiple wars consistently. Without the fiat system it would have instead cost the elite considerable wealth to create such elaborate industries.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 01:24 AM
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The federal reserve was responsible for all wars since 1913. Ron paul has always known the truth. Its sad that many are still asleep to his message.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 02:32 AM
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I think Ron Paul's views on race are not racist. He's just speaking plainly. In Jamaica for example, large segments of the population are connected directly or indirectly to the trade in marijuana. They have an attitude to law enforcement that one might call "aloof". Here in Toronto it translates into a large tolerance for gang activity and a reluctance to cooperate with the police investigating shootings that occur in the Jamaican community.

Jamaicans are fantastic people but there is an issue with law enforcement. Jamaican community leaders recognize the problem themselves and occasionally speak out about it. Groups of mothers of victims become activists on the subject. It's an ongoing thing in this city. Ron Paul is simply acknowledging reality when he refers to this kind of thing.

I don't know enough about "Jim Crow" laws to know what he is talking about there. Does he want separate fountains for blacks and whites? If he does then I think that is an absurd insult that nobody, black or white should put up with.
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posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 04:10 AM
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I would encourage everyone on ATS to not be trapped by the various "isms". Have your thoughts and express them without fear of being accused of some "ism"- racism, anti-Semitism, sexism, whatever "ism".

I'm not sure what the intent of the OP or the repliers to this thread was, but I do believe my love of this man has been cemented for all time.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 04:32 AM
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Originally posted by Superhans
Ron Paul said a LOT of things



”Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal. These aren’t my figures, that is the assumption you can gather from” the report.”




“The Criminals who terrorize our cities – in riots and on every non-riot day – are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are.”




“I wouldn’t vote against getting rid of the Jim Crow laws.”



“Immigrants can spread diseases for which we may have no immunity. There is also the question of crime and culture. Many immigrants come from countries with different legal structures and are not willing to behave in the way we expect American citizens to behave.”


Yet Ron Paul supporters generally don't seem to accept his views on race.
Just because Ron Paul says something does not make it so



What seems wrong or out of place about those statements from Ron Paul?


First of all, the first statement, is very clear. He is saying the criminal justice system is failing, and some report would have you believe that 90-95% of the black males in our country are criminals. He clearly states that isn't HIS opinion.


As for immigrants spreading disease - THEY DO. Are you not aware of this? Race has nothing to do with it. When Europeans migrated here to America - they spread small pox and other diseases that the Native Americans couldn't deffend against. Their immune systems were completely clueless.

There are examples of this in every single country where another population migrates to where a native population lives. This is actually documented in environmental science. A HUGE factor of disease among mankind - was when mankind started trading between populations, and ever since, as more and more technology allows us to be more connected physically - spreading diseases has been an issue. This isn't racist my friend.



posted on Oct, 16 2012 @ 04:34 AM
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Originally posted by Diggz
reply to [url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread890427/pg1#pid15141493]post

I hope this isnt too off topic

It pains me to say, but i was convinced into joining the military. I was one of the many who joined because of 9/11. I went to Afghanistan thinking i was doing something good for my country. I was 18 of course i believed the lies...lol.

But the military changed me...Woke me up to what was reqlly going on. I knew i was in Afghan for the wrong reasons, i knew our occupation there, and in Iraq, was wrong...thats why i got out (of the military)

But i wish...i pray (to my nonexisting god) that foreign troops step foot here, doing what i was told to do in Afghan. I will be taking up arms...who wouldnt? If you still think the "taliban" are terrorists then there is something wrong. They are just doing what anyone else would do, or maybe its just me...



I still think the Taliban are terrorists. Just the other day, the tried to assassinate a 12 year old girl , for trying to speak her mind. This was all over the news. She survived, and moved to the UK.

They are generally considered extremists. While I don't agree with US foreign policy, that doesn't magically make the Taliban good guys. They aren't.



posted on Oct, 17 2012 @ 12:23 PM
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Yeah, you need to source some of these goofy quotes. Someone has already blown the Jim Crow quote out of the water with the MSNBC video. It really is sad to see what happens to Ron Paul, as it is hard for him to have an intelligent conversation on TV.



posted on Oct, 18 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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One of the most legitimate conspiracy theories is that people back both side of the war( or political raise) in order to back the winning side for sure.



posted on Oct, 18 2012 @ 04:18 PM
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Regarding Jamaicans: There is a reason Jamaicans will step back and not help law enforcement when it concerns other Jamaicans. I'll give you an example. One of my co-workers is Jamaican. He was telling me about one of his sisters being a barrister in the UK. While she was on vacation, she was contacted, as they wanted her to help translate Patois. Apparently, two Jamaican guys had been arrested for drugs and weren't cooperating with the police by refusing to speak in English. She refused as those guys would immediately connect her to her family back in Jamaica and retaliation would have been practically guaranteed. Their fears are founded in reality.



posted on Oct, 18 2012 @ 04:20 PM
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yeah

we all miss those periods of peace on earth like


um


well

when was that ?



posted on Oct, 18 2012 @ 04:51 PM
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YOu guys are all idiots!!
Ron Paul is an Idiot.

Don't you know that Obama or Romney is going to fix everything and make it all better?
You must not have gotten the memo.
They love our country and hate the terrorists and are going to make our economy better and.....and...
If the central banks were really that bad then they would have been gotten rid of a long time ago.
JFK would have done it.

Bankers are awesome and the Federal Reserve is awesome!
I hope they lock that sonofabitch up for life who tried to blow up that Federal Reserve building in NYC!
He was a terrorist.
Bankers are good, terrorists are bad!

sorry for the rant.



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