reply to post by adjensen
What FlyersFan is pointing out has nothing to do with the Bible, but with the method of argument.
The whole premise of my discussion here is to show that all the fallen angels have to do to destroy someone is find one chink in the armor and
everything else falls apart. One of the chinks they have exploited is this issue of the state of the dead. All they have to do is impersonate the
dead, give someone some warm fuzzy feelings and what do you know, because of that 'experience' now they doubt the authority of what is written in the
I have shown in this particular instance that to doubt the authority of God now leds someone to conclude that the creation account is BS that the
stories in the Old Testament are BS that when God gives clears commandments to do this or that in the NT they are now ignored....why? Well if the
Bible got it wrong on the issue of the state of the dead then they could have got it wrong on other things so that means you can pretty much make up
your own religion (or just follow anyone who claims to have the keys to Heaven and seemingly backs it up by having lots of money and power to boot).
What FlyersFan and you (and all others in the opposition camp on this issue) don't realize is that it will come down to keeping the Sabbath or not
(when the antichrist comes on the scene). 'The wages of sign is death'. It is not so much a day that is of significance, it is that the issue of the
Sabbath tests pretty darn completely someones 'belief in' God.
- If you love me, keep my commandments (John 14:15)
- Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
- For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not burdensome. (1 John 5:3)
- We are sure that we know Christ if we obey his commandments. The person who says, "I know him," but doesn't obey his commandments is a liar. The
truth isn't in that person. (1 John 2:3-4)
- Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus (Revelation 14:12)
- "...but if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments" (Matthew 19:17)
- Brethren, I write no new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning (1 John 2:7)
By saying you don't think a day matters to God you are saying that God's commandments don't matter to Him, that showing love to Him doesn't matter,
that entering into His 'Life' doesn't matter, that honoring the day he set aside to be a memorial to His creative power doesn't matter (I could go
along this train of thought much more).
The upshot of it all is, because of the deception of the fallen angels even coming across as supposedly 'good' or loving...they have planted the seeds
for your destruction come the End Times test from the anti-christ (when Satan presents himself physically to the world impersonating Christ).
What are you going to put in your hand (actions) and your forehead (mind, prefrontal cortex), obedience and trust in God or the Beast?
Concerning the keeping on the Divine Law
4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
5 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the
way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes[forehead , NIV 1984 edition].
Deuteronomy 11:8 Therefore you shall keep every commandment that I have commanded you today...
...18 Therefore you shall lay up these words of mine in your heart and in your soul, and bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as
frontlets between your eyes [foreheads , NIV 1984 edition]
Exodus 13: 9 (and verse16) And it shall be for a sign unto you upon your hand, and for a memorial before your eyes, that the LORD'S law may
be in your mouth: for with a strong hand has the LORD brought you out of Egypt.
Revelation 9:4 They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their
Revelation 13:16 He [The beast] also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his
“Sunday is our mark of authority...the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.”
— Catholic Record of London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.
“Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change (Saturday Sabbath to Sunday) was her act...And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical
authority in religious things.” — H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons.
Moreover also I gave  them my sabbaths,  to be a sign  between me and them, that they might know  that I [am] the LORD
 that sanctify  them.
And hallow  my sabbaths;  and they shall be a sign  between me and you, that ye may know  that I [am] the LORD
 your God. 
What is the word meaning of this strongs #0226 word?
SIGN: Hebrew: 'owth', meaning - sign, token, ensign, mark, a distinguishing mark, signal, banner, remembrance
Are you not spiritual Israel (oh whom the new covenant was created for Jeremiah 31:31) or do you reject the new covenant?
"Is not yet too late for Protestants to redeem themselves. Will they do it?... will they indeed take the written word only, the Scripture alone,
as their sole authority and their sole standard? Or will they still hold the indefensible, self contradictory, and suicidal doctrine and practice of
following the authority of the Catholic church and wear the SIGN of her authority? Will they keep the Sabbath of the Lord, the seventh day,
according to Scripture? Or will they keep the Sunday according to the tradition of the Catholic church, Rome's
Do you think Rome does not know what it means when they use the word's 'Sign' and 'mark' interchangeable concerning their authority directly pitting
themselves up against God's sign/mark (as shown from the analysis of strongs #0226). They know exactly what they are doing in leading people to their
destruction (FACT). And I don't want you guys who are earnestly seeking to be destroyed.
If FlyersFan or you or anyone here calls themselves a Christian because you 'believe in' God but then hold views which implicate that God's is not all
knowing, all powerful, a false prophet ect then you do not in fact 'believe in' God (as I said in an earlier post...what sets you apart from Satan as
even he 'believes in' God, in fact he KNOWS it....there is someone more to it that just saying 'I believe in God', in a sense that means nothing, it
is what you believe about God that matters and by implication following what He says because you trust it)
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