Banning the word 'fatty' is an insidious attempt at politically correct thought control

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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 07:10 AM
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thought control ? settle down

there is no such thing as free speech. libel and slander are illegal. fraud is illegal

so why complain about this ? the only reason is if you don't belive in hate crimes as a valid crime

anything that can help stop bullying seems like worth a try to me




posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 07:12 AM
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Yes, my post started out with population control but I erased it. Didn't want to sound 'too' conspiracy. Thanks for putting it out there!



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 07:21 AM
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i disagree, i have every right to criticize and say whatever i think or feel they should do, as they have the right to listen or not. that's personal liberty. i can't demand it or expect the other to comply much less force it but believe me i have every right to express it.

any criticism is valid as long such criticism isn't used to imply my opinion or my persona is superior(or inferior) to any other.

opinions don't matter, actions do
there's at least 7billion opinions per second any given day, if only we had at least half the action...



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 07:25 AM
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I think the big deal for me in this instance is that we should be free to make our own personal and lifestyle choices.

If they are deemed unhealthy and is proven so, then it's our own choice to either continue or stop, not somebody elses.

If we are continually told what to do by other people and the Government, then our right for personal choice will diminsih, and if that dimishes we will start failing to learn the lessons we learn from making these types of choices.

Life is a journey full of lessons, we make good and bad choices, go down good and bad paths. If we are not allowed to do so of our own free will, then we will not grow as people.

You say you would be fine with people criticizing you for smoking, you say you know that it is bad for you. But if people continuously criticized you, will that make you give up? I don't think it would, because even knowing it's bad for you, you haven't given up yet. It is up to YOU to want to give up, and when you get to that mindset, you will, by your own choosing and not because others tell you to.

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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 07:32 AM
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Okay, so then is it a 'hate crime' to call someone scary skinny? When I was in college I was going through a difficult time and I lost alot of weight. I had people I didn't know coming up to me and telling me I was too skinny, I needed to put some meat on my bones.

I am still slim (but not scary skinny) and I still get remarks from people. If I order dessert at restaurants I get looks from other (heavier) women and they just have to comment that 'only a skinny person like you could get away with eating that' or 'you're so tiny how are you going to finish all that?'. It's annoying because I would never point out to a big person the food they're eating is only going to make them fatter.

We criticize models for being too skinny and they get pulled off the runway. Nobody seems to think it isn't okay to do this but it's not okay to call a person obese?

What a double standard.
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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 07:36 AM
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I'm a fatty, and I don't care what people think or say about me, it's just words, they just roll off my back and I drive on



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by UziLiberman
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i disagree, i have every right to criticize and say whatever i think or feel they should do, as they have the right to listen or not. that's personal liberty. i can't demand it or expect the other to comply much less force it but believe me i have every right to express it.

any criticism is valid as long such criticism isn't used to imply my opinion or my persona is superior(or inferior) to any other.

opinions don't matter, actions do
there's at least 7billion opinions per second any given day, if only we had at least half the action...




You have every right to express your opinion, just as you have every right to disagree with mine and other peoples..

What i'm trying to convey is that telling people what they can and can't do is pretty much on a par with the Governments telling you what you can and can't do.

Some people get outraged with the Government constantly trying to strip their rights away, yet then go on to tell someone who is overweight that their right to eat what they want and not exercise is wrong.

You want to be free to express your own opinions and disagree with others, so let others be free in exercising their own personal choices.

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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 07:40 AM
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I think this is a great idea.

As long as they also ban the use of the word "skinny".

People often comment on how thin, slim or skinny I am. In reality, they are usually fat or large compared to me.

If I respond with something like "better than being fat", they sometimes get offended.

Hypocrisy, jealousy and ignorance at it's finest (fattest).
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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 07:44 AM
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"I think this is a great idea.

As long as they also ban the use of the word "skinny"

So whats next after that banning all words except what TPTB deem acceptable?

WTF think about people! When is enough, enough!

FREEDOM!!!!!
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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
Well I'd say goodbye to freedom of speech.


I've said this time and time again:

Political Correctness will be the Downfall of the West.



We're so "worried" that someones feelings will "get hurt" that we're far too willing to trample our rights to make sure that doesn't happen. What happened to being adults? That goes both ways: Don't call someone fat but if you're called fat, walk it off. Same for anything not PC. I'm not PC (hence my signature) but I am polite. If I think you're fat, do I say it? Nope. Should I believe I'm committing a "hate" crime by thinking it? Hell no! Even if I say it, at worst I'm crude. Not a criminal.

The world as it stands today makes me sick. The more "modern" we get, the stupider we get.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 10:45 AM
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IT AINT COOL TO BE FAT!

Fat people make me scrunch my nose.

Now, I realise some people may have medical conditions that make them gain weight, understandable, but the rest of them..?!?

Now, I AM a nice person, I'd never destroy somebodies confidence in telling them my opinion out loud, that is reserved for the little voice in my head, and this little rant on ATS..

But seriously, not only do you look gross, you feel gross, you makes the ques far longer in the fast food gaffs, you smell more, you take up two seats on public transport, not that I'd sit there anyway...

AND they strain the NHS just as much as smokers and drinkers, yet are they getting taxed for it??!?! NO.

Nothing makes me think the world is more doomed than hearing fat folk on the morning news or with a section in the newspaper saying "I've tried so hard, I just can't get thin! I need to do this for my child!" Cry cry, whinge whinge.. Blar!

Get over your self, its a very SIMPLE equation EAT LESS + MOVE MORE = FITNESS AND HEALTH.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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If anybody called me Fatty, I would sit on 'em and crush 'em.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 10:57 AM
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OK then Fatso, Fatty and Fat is out so let's just stick to saying that they have a grotesquely enormous subcutanious layer enveloping their arse!

I'll call anyone i like anything i like...if a UK chief whip thinks it's fine to call police officers Effin Plebs, it's good enough to call a fat gut bucket lard arse a fat gut bucket lard arse!

If the cap fits...



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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i disagree, i have every right to criticize and say whatever i think or feel they should do, as they have the right to listen or not. that's personal liberty. i can't demand it or expect the other to comply much less force it but believe me i have every right to express it.


Then I hope you can take the abuse back.

Usually this is a case of being able to dish the bs but not being able to take it.

I'd really love to see people with this pos attitude handle it if a bunch of people just walked up to them and started berating them and bullying them to no end to get them to change.

Abusing people never accomplishes anything but generates hostility and resentment and some people will lash out at those who are abusing them.

And personally I'd love to see the people who just walk up to a complete stranger and start abusing them with a lot of foul language get beaten up so bad they'd pee through a plastic tube for the rest of their life.

This kind of behavior, abusing people, should not be allowed in a civilized society. A civilized society is all about tolerance, and allowing people to to have their choice. Abusing strangers because of their weight is not tolerant.

Some people really can not help their weight, others can, you just don't know. And generalizing doesn't help.

This is why I hate society to no end, because bullying people to no end is an acceptable way of life.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
thought control ? settle down

there is no such thing as free speech. libel and slander are illegal. fraud is illegal

so why complain about this ? the only reason is if you don't belive in hate crimes as a valid crime

anything that can help stop bullying seems like worth a try to me


Calling someone fat or obese is not a hate crime.

If calling someone fat should be illegal, would doctors be guilty of a crime if they told a very fat patient that he was obese?

Would they get granted a special exemption perhaps...


Its a ridiculous scenario and its also ridiculous to support making calling someone fat illegal.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone

This kind of behavior, abusing people, should not be allowed in a civilized society. A civilized society is all about tolerance, and allowing people to to have their choice. Abusing strangers because of their weight is not tolerant.



Are we as a society to legislate tolerance?

If I call my wife fat, should I be guilty of a crime?

What if she really is fat. Would the fact that my statement is factually correct mean that I should not be held to be guilty of crime?



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino
If I call my wife fat, should I be guilty of a crime?

No
But., depending on your wife, you may want police protection right after that.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by Sinny
Get over your self, its a very SIMPLE equation EAT LESS + MOVE MORE = FITNESS AND HEALTH.



Truth
However, I would prefer a pill that I can pop, eat like a savage, not gain an ounce, and poop diamonds.

until my dream is realized, a walkin we will go.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 12:47 PM
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Are we as a society to legislate tolerance?


No, abuse.

It's the context that matters, and the intent, which is something you're forgetting, and making huge generalizations on.

It's just wrong to go up to a complete stranger and start berating them for no reason. That is abuse, and should not be allowed.

By the way, there is no such thing as free speech in America anyway. Not really. There are certain words you just can't say because they are deemed offensive. Saying them aloud hurts people's feelings and abuses children and turns children into psychopathic cat and dog murdering Satanic worshipers.

So why is it okay to ban these words and not the word fat? Isn't banning these words thought speech as well?

Isn't this a huge double standard? After all, the only reason to ban these words is because some people's feelings get hurt.

So why is it okay to ban some words so that some people's feelings don't get hurt but not okay to ban others that also hurt other people's feelings?

Either all abuse is okay, or none of it is. That means it's okay to walk up to a black person and call them a 'n-word' because that's what he is. It's just the truth after all, and just words, and a strong person doesn't let these kind of words affect them.

And morality should be applied evenly across the board, or it ceases to become morality and instead becomes a game of double standards and special privileges.

That's why this whole complaint of yours is nonsense. All you're doing is cherry picking what is okay and what is not.

A civilized society does not allow for people to abuse or bully other people, and allows repercussions against those who do.
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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 12:56 PM
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Aside from the fact that it is hurtful to call someone fat, I find it an unacceptable human trait to verbally categorize everyone we see. Oh, she's beautiful! He's so tall. Gawd, is she ugly. He has so many freckles. What a big nose.

Why do we do that????





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