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Originally posted by Laykilla
I did read the report, the report very specifically states that calling someone fat could become a hate crime.
That's what it says, in pure English.
I think it's you who doesn't understand the totality of the report in question, not the other way around -- basically, you're just making excuses for why it's acceptable behavior when it's simply anything but.
Originally posted by ollncasino
Originally posted by Laykilla
I did read the report, the report very specifically states that calling someone fat could become a hate crime.
That's what it says, in pure English.
I think it's you who doesn't understand the totality of the report in question, not the other way around -- basically, you're just making excuses for why it's acceptable behavior when it's simply anything but.
I suspect that a lot of people who assert that we shouldn't worry about the report's proposal that calling someone fat should be a hate crime, actually agree with the proposal.
This has gone beyond political correctness. It is transparent social engineering enforced by criminal law.
What right do MPs have to socially engineer society so that being fat is as socially acceptable as being slim and attractive?
People like slim and attractive people for a reason. They are healthy.
edit on 13-10-2012 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Laykilla
Thank you for phrasing it better than I could, star, good sir/madam.
Originally posted by Goldcurrent
Really people...
I understand that obesity is becoming an epidemic. More so in the land below me in the wonderful U.S. of A.
Why a collegue of mine just landed in Amurika (eight hours ago) and had requested a Hyundai Accent (or similar) as a rental vehicle. What did he get?? A Ford F-150
Then he proceeded to the movie theatre and ordered a 'medium' soft drink. He claims that this soft drink in Canada would be considered an 'extra large'.
I myself have witnessed the portions and standards of resturaunts in the U.S. vs Canada. Quite a bit of difference. However the rate of obestity may be on a varying level...I would NEVER to a persons face tell them that they are FAT.
Subtely hint at being overweight? Maybe. But to call someone fat to their face???
This is just mind boggling to a civilized person.
Originally posted by andy06shake
Calling someone a fag and saying "I hate gays" is not a hate crime. Beating up a gay person because they are gay is. Do you see the difference?"
Originally posted by Laykilla
Originally posted by Goldcurrent
Really people...
I understand that obesity is becoming an epidemic. More so in the land below me in the wonderful U.S. of A.
Why a collegue of mine just landed in Amurika (eight hours ago) and had requested a Hyundai Accent (or similar) as a rental vehicle. What did he get?? A Ford F-150
Then he proceeded to the movie theatre and ordered a 'medium' soft drink. He claims that this soft drink in Canada would be considered an 'extra large'.
I myself have witnessed the portions and standards of resturaunts in the U.S. vs Canada. Quite a bit of difference. However the rate of obestity may be on a varying level...I would NEVER to a persons face tell them that they are FAT.
Subtely hint at being overweight? Maybe. But to call someone fat to their face???
This is just mind boggling to a civilized person.
I disagree. Sugar coating the truth is mind boggling to a civilized person. Calling a spade a spade is what we do to be productive. Sugar coating it is kind of like saying "It's okay if you can't, but you really should try to do something about it." All that person hears is "It's okay that I'm fat."
The only reason why it hurts their feeling when they get called fat, is because of people sugar coating it to them.
Do you see how that works? So they believe at first, it's okay to be fat when I otherwise don't have to be, so I'm going to do nothing about it, and then someone calls them fat straight up, no sugar coat -- and then they get all emotional because they convinced themselves it was okay, when it's really not.
It's not okay to be fat an out of shape -- the only thing fat and out of shape people can do is answer phones, for real.
What does a 350 lb person do for a living? It's not rocket science, it's nothing labor intensive.
Originally posted by andy06shake
"Should it also be an offense to call someone fat?"
No, not if they are!
Should it be an offense to call a black person Black? Certainly not if they are surely, but its heading in that direction. People are people after all
Originally posted by andy06shake
reply to post by Laykilla
"To me, a hate crime is when you commit an actual crime based upon an unfair prejudice. Voicing your opinion that you are indeed prejudice is not in fact a hate crime.
For exemplary practice only;
Calling someone a fag and saying "I hate gays" is not a hate crime. Beating up a gay person because they are gay is. Do you see the difference?"
No i dont see the difference mate. A crime is just that! IMHO tagging hate on the front debases the notion. Why should an assault on gay black or any other individual be different?edit on 13-10-2012 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)
I did read the report, the report very specifically states that calling someone fat could become a hate crime.
I suspect that a lot of people who assert that we shouldn't worry about the report's proposal that calling someone fat should be a hate crime, actually agree with the proposal.
This has gone beyond political correctness. It is transparent social engineering enforced by criminal law.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
Weasel words Ol? I'm not in agreement with what you call 'the proposal.' I notice you've suddenly switched from *maybe* and *could* to 'enforced by criminal law.' Strawman much?