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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by originaldraagyn
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By providing these examples, you are only showing that Obama's policies have not been detrimental to these specific companies. A better way to look at it would be at the NYSE as a whole, and GDP as a whole.

www.forecast-chart.com...

The above link shows that over the course of the last four years -- not including this year -- we haven't come out of the hole that the NYSE was in at the end of 2008. Progress has been made, yes, but not a complete recovery.




I chose these companies at random, + 800% growth is insanely good by any measure.
This is an American company that employs tens of thousands of Americans...

It is ridiculous that so many are saying that the economy is getting worse or that it hasn't
gotten much better.


Whole Foods,

Price 01/23/09 - $11.37 per share


Price 10/12/12 - $96.40 per share




posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by badgerprints
Obama vilifies the rich and yet they thrive under his administration.
Well spotted.
He's obviously working to help the rich become richer and the poor get poorer.
Good job!


No, the GOP is obsessed with making the rich, richer...

Look at you, you came in here immediately concerned about the rich, first sentence.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 01:50 PM
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Proof - Obama is good for the economy

The unemployment rate; the skyrocketing cost of food; the cost of gas; my rising cost of healthcare; and my seriously deflated property values say otherwise.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 02:08 PM
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I see your logic OP, but I happen to think that the stock market and corporate value are easily manipulated and cannot serve as a guide to tell us whether or not the economy is better or worse.

If anything it shows that the fascist direction our presidents have pointed towards and Romney would be the same, just like Obama......stooges for corporate good.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Proof - Obama is good for the economy

The unemployment rate; the skyrocketing cost of food; the cost of gas; my rising cost of healthcare; and my seriously deflated property values say otherwise.


The unemployment has dropped every month for years, all you have are exaggerations and
distortions. Unemployment is the lower it has been in nearly 5 years


As far as gas, blame the corporations and companies who charge you for that gas, Obama is
not in control of the private market


Healthcare has been increasing 150% every decade for the last two, do you expect Obama to
save you??? That is the nature of the market place, you do like it? Advocate for Universal
healthcare


Housing is coming back too, from three weeks ago


Home prices are on the rise
Data released this morning from the S&P/Case-Shiller Home Price Index (link opens PDF file), a leading measure of U.S. home prices, showed that in July, prices increased in 10 of the nation's largest metropolitan areas by 1.5% and by 1.6% when an additional 10 areas were included. It was the third consecutive month that housing prices in all 20 cities increased, and it would have been the fourth such increase had prices not fallen by 0.6% in Detroit back in April.


www.dailyfinance.com...



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 02:20 PM
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Hope is a mighty powerful thing to crush isnt everyone?



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by 11235813213455
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Hope is a mighty powerful thing to crush isnt everyone?



Why don't you use some substance instead of using the tactics of High School cheerleaders?



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by campanionator

Originally posted by 11235813213455
reply to post by campanionator
 


Hope is a mighty powerful thing to crush isnt everyone?



Why don't you use some substance instead of using the tactics of High School cheerleaders?



Oh theres plenty of substance there alright.

The "Hope" word is more of an icon...a place holder..if you will for all the ills that plague your ideology and the personality worship of Obama.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 02:45 PM
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Stocks may have done well under Obama, but not the jobs market. Stocks go up, jobs go down. Suffice to say "most" Americans are doing worse than 4 years ago.

Labor-force participation rate has gradually declined since Obama took office. It is a correct assumption to say the jobs market is weaker in 2012 than 2011. And 2011 is weaker than 2010 and so on.

Sept. 30, 2012 63.60%
Aug. 31, 2012 63.50%
July 31, 2012 63.70%
June 30, 2012 63.80%
May 31, 2012 63.80%
April 30, 2012 63.60%
March 31, 2012 63.80%
Feb. 29, 2012 63.90%
Jan. 31, 2012 63.70%
Dec. 31, 2011 64.00%
Nov. 30, 2011 64.00%
Oct. 31, 2011 64.10%
Sept. 30, 2011 64.10%
Aug. 31, 2011 64.10%
July 31, 2011 64.00%
June 30, 2011 64.10%
May 31, 2011 64.20%
April 30, 2011 64.20%
March 31, 2011 64.20%
Feb. 28, 2011 64.20%
Jan. 31, 2011 64.20%
Dec. 31, 2010 64.30%
Nov. 30, 2010 64.50%
Oct. 31, 2010 64.40%
Sept. 30, 2010 64.60%

US Labor Force Participation Rate Historical Data Chart and More Here:
ycharts.com...



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by 11235813213455

Originally posted by campanionator

Originally posted by 11235813213455
reply to post by campanionator
 


Hope is a mighty powerful thing to crush isnt everyone?



Why don't you use some substance instead of using the tactics of High School cheerleaders?



Oh theres plenty of substance there alright.

The "Hope" word is more of an icon...a place holder..if you will for all the ills that plague your ideology and the personality worship of Obama.



You are offering up high school style character digs...

Who is worshipping Obama? The people who are obsessed with him are the right wing, you guys act
as if he is mythical and godlike.

I think he is a man and I think he has done a lot better than the fantasy right wing America has casted
upon him.

Why are you obsessed with him?



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by alternateuniverse
reply to post by campanionator
 

Stocks may have done well under Obama, but not the jobs market. Stocks go up, jobs go down. Suffice to say "most" Americans are doing worse than 4 years ago.

Labor-force participation rate has gradually declined since Obama took office. It is a correct assumption to say the jobs market is weaker in 2012 than 2011. And 2011 is weaker than 2010 and so on.

Sept. 30, 2012 63.60%
Aug. 31, 2012 63.50%
July 31, 2012 63.70%
June 30, 2012 63.80%
May 31, 2012 63.80%
April 30, 2012 63.60%
March 31, 2012 63.80%
Feb. 29, 2012 63.90%
Jan. 31, 2012 63.70%
Dec. 31, 2011 64.00%
Nov. 30, 2011 64.00%
Oct. 31, 2011 64.10%
Sept. 30, 2011 64.10%
Aug. 31, 2011 64.10%
July 31, 2011 64.00%
June 30, 2011 64.10%
May 31, 2011 64.20%
April 30, 2011 64.20%
March 31, 2011 64.20%
Feb. 28, 2011 64.20%
Jan. 31, 2011 64.20%
Dec. 31, 2010 64.30%
Nov. 30, 2010 64.50%
Oct. 31, 2010 64.40%
Sept. 30, 2010 64.60%

US Labor Force Participation Rate Historical Data Chart and More Here:
ycharts.com...


Suffice to say you are being ridiculous - this economy has added jobs every month for over three years.
Tell me in English how adding jobs is indicative of a worse economy???

Whole Foods Employs 57,000 people as of this year and they are going to go from 331 store in 2012
to 1,000 in 2022 -

That is tremendous growth that will essentially TRIPLE the amount of people they employ...

Stop being ridiculous for Pete's sake, your mind certainly occupies an alternate universe.
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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 04:06 PM
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No. You are ridiculous.

Point 1: How many "pro-economic" Obama threads are on ATS are besides this one? There are tons more threads and S & F (stars and flags) for other threads that debunk threads like yours.

Point 2: The Labor-force participation rate has been the lowest in over 30 years. Many people stopped looking for work and simply dropped out of the government's "labor force."

Point 3: Gasoline prices are the highest under Obama than any other president.

Point 4: Obamacare (Affordable Care Act) is destroying any chance of an economic recovery, if there was any under Obama.

Point 5: American's are not better off than they were four years ago.

PS- Stop cherry picking the winners and losers in this economy. Most of Americans are losers because of Obamanomics.

-au



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 04:12 PM
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Obama good for the economy?

Foodstamp usage at a record high
US credit rating downgraded.
High unemployment.
Low GDP
QE3, just last month.

That's like saying hammers are good for headaches.
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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
Obama good for the economy?

Foodstamp usage at a record high
US credit rating downgraded.
High unemployment.
Low GDP
QE3, just last month.

That's like saying hammers are good for headaches.
edit on 13-10-2012 by beezzer because: (no reason given)


And the job creators are experiencing 100% + 800% growth


And people have been finding jobs for three years straight

It is obvious you used a hammer for one of your past headaches, it shows



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by campanionator

Originally posted by beezzer
Obama good for the economy?

Foodstamp usage at a record high
US credit rating downgraded.
High unemployment.
Low GDP
QE3, just last month.

That's like saying hammers are good for headaches.
edit on 13-10-2012 by beezzer because: (no reason given)


And the job creators are experiencing 100% + 800% growth


And people have been finding jobs for three years straight

It is obvious you used a hammer for one of your past headaches, it shows


That's it? That's your riposte'?

Foodstamp usage at a record high
US credit rating downgraded.
High unemployment.
Low GDP
QE3, just last month.

Some legacy.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by alternateuniverse
reply to post by campanionator
 


No. You are ridiculous.

Point 1: How many "pro-economic" Obama threads are on ATS are besides this one? There are tons more threads and S & F (stars and flags) for other threads that debunk threads like yours.


Because ATS has an unusual amount of right winger these days doesn't change the fact that
you cannot refute the premise of my thread.



Point 2: The Labor-force participation rate has been the lowest in over 30 years. Many people stopped looking for work and simply dropped out of the government's "labor force."


And nearly 5 million people found jobs




Point 3: Gasoline prices are the highest under Obama than any other president.


I was unaware Obama set gas prices
can you provide a link that says he does?




Point 4: Obamacare (Affordable Care Act) is destroying any chance of an economic recovery, if there was any under Obama.


There has been three years of recovery - My stock went up 800% you mental giant you


My other stock is up 500%



Point 5: American's are not better off than they were four years ago.


errr, durrrr

Did America lose over 700,000 jobs this month??? It did the month Bush left office




PS- Stop cherry picking the winners and losers in this economy. Most of Americans are losers because of Obamanomics.



Most Americans are losers because they listen to people like you, you are the people who are depressing the economy with your perpetual negativity.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by campanionator

Originally posted by beezzer
Obama good for the economy?

Foodstamp usage at a record high
US credit rating downgraded.
High unemployment.
Low GDP
QE3, just last month.

That's like saying hammers are good for headaches.
edit on 13-10-2012 by beezzer because: (no reason given)


And the job creators are experiencing 100% + 800% growth


And people have been finding jobs for three years straight

It is obvious you used a hammer for one of your past headaches, it shows


That's it? That's your riposte'?

Foodstamp usage at a record high
US credit rating downgraded.
High unemployment.
Low GDP
QE3, just last month.

Some legacy.


It really matters with you?


I can mention the 35% increase in exports

or I can mention that housing prices are raising all across the country.

Or that unemployment is nearly 25% lower


Manufacturing has had it's biggest increase in over three decades


Thanks your GOP friends who held up the debt negotiations for the downgrade



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by campanionator


It really matters with you?


I can mention the 35% increase in exports


Source?


or I can mention that housing prices are raising all across the country.


Inflation, thanks to QE3


Or that unemployment is nearly 25% lower


Or just 25% stopped looking for work.


Manufacturing has had it's biggest increase in over three decades


By having taxpayer dollars artificially pumped into the system, which will drop off the second the government stops propping up the market.


Thanks your GOP friends who held up the debt negotiations for the downgrade


The downgrade happened AFTER the debt ceiling was raised!



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by campanionator


It really matters with you?


I can mention the 35% increase in exports


Source?


or I can mention that housing prices are raising all across the country.


Inflation, thanks to QE3


Or that unemployment is nearly 25% lower


Or just 25% stopped looking for work.


Manufacturing has had it's biggest increase in over three decades


By having taxpayer dollars artificially pumped into the system, which will drop off the second the government stops propping up the market.


Thanks your GOP friends who held up the debt negotiations for the downgrade


The downgrade happened AFTER the debt ceiling was raised!





In his State of the Union address two years ago, President Obama argued there were a few things the U.S. needed to do in order to recover from the economic recession: One of them was to export more of goods around the world.

"The more products we make and sell to other countries, the more jobs we support right here in America," Obama said.

That night, the president unveiled a new goal: to double U.S. exports over the next five years. It would be an increase the president said would "support 2 million jobs in America."

Most economists dismissed the pledge at the time as somewhat quixotic, but two years later, the U.S. is on pace to meet that goal. American exports are up 34 percent since the president gave that speech, and the number continues to rise.



www.npr.org...

Housing prices have been rising before QE3


Or the labor force is shrinking because more old people are retiring

You seem to little faith in America regarding manufacturing, if you don't like America, maybe you
should move???



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 05:06 PM
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Being stationed in Germany, I pay close attention to the exchange rate.

One thing I've noticed is that whenever the DJIA drops, the value of the dollar gets higher.

When the DJIA jumps up, the value of the dollar drops.

Which tells me that foreign markets are more involved with the US stock market than "Americans".





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