This Young girl committed suicide by social media !

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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 11:32 PM
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This thread is about Amanda Todd and I will continue to keep the thread on topic and contribute to respectful comments and discussion.

Amanda Todd - rest still and know that many people are now aware of your pain. Maybe next time around we will actually be there to help you.

Much Peace...




posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by Superhans

Originally posted by FlySolo

Originally posted by Superhans
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Its just a constant appeal to emotion to get attention


Kind of exactly what you're doing
eh?


No... I go off facts. An appeal to emotion is a logical fallacy, nice try.


Now you're Spock from Star Treck?

Why are emotions so illogicaal to you? They serve a purpose.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by Superhans

Originally posted by FlySolo
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It's not a nice try, it's an excellent one. You're playing on everyone's frustration with you in this thread by continuously being facetious. Makes you feel better like you're "in the know". You're being an attention whore.


Name calling is a great tool to take place of an intelligent response. Thanks for trying


If you're offended by the truth then I suggest you get thicker skin here. I would think such a frivolous comment like attention whore shouldn't affect you. Sorry to offend you guy. It's ok.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 11:33 PM
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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 11:37 PM
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Get over yourself


Originally posted by Superhans
Millions of kids get picked on everyday and don't go on to kill themselves.


Many do,because they are lost in dispair,some without family or friends,some cannot forgive themselves or believe that they are worth forgivness,others hound them and never allow them to move beyond mistakes etc.

But we get it,she was weak compared to you and anyone else like her,yet you never walked in her shoes to know.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 11:38 PM
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This thread is about the death by suicide by Amanda Todd. She appealed to our emotions because she was in pain.
Emotions are a natural aspect of the human psyche and it is a shame that Amanda Todd had more of the negative emotions than the positive.

May Amanda Todd be surrounded with all the positive emotions she did not have while alive. Rest in peace.

Much Peace...



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 11:38 PM
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Please...

Continue to discuss the TOPIC...

and not each other..

if need be, take a break... then return..

everyone is entitled to their opinion..

Let's try and not make it personal...

Thanks for your cooperation.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by Superhans
This children are worth defending crap is just empty rhetoric no matter how many times you repeat yourself.




posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 11:59 PM
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I feel bad for her parents and her friends but that is it. Suicide is a selfish act that ruins the lives of those close to the people who take their own lives. Im still waiting for an update on this story, and im willing to bet nearly anything that there are a lot of things that are not true in the video.
1. Using child porn as a profile pic will get you arrested.
2. She has "no friends" yet the only reason this video is on youtube is because a friend uploaded it and she was in cheerleading at school. Cheerleaders are not generally the social outcasts. If you watch news reports you can see that she did in fact have friends.
I think the video was made for her school project or whatever and was for school not some factual story about her life. I have no doubt that she flashed someone on the net and that she was bullied in school, however the media is trying to spin this like it was all about online bullying, even though the problems at her new school came from her getting with some other girls boyfriend. If that situation was reversed and that other girl killed herself because some girl took her boyfriend then Amanda would be the monster. She was put on anti-depressants and if you read the labels of on them they ALL have suicidal thoughts and tendencies as a side effect. so what is more likely to cause suicide? A drug or the internet? I think it is just way to early to jump on this bandwagon of blaming bullying for this, there was probably a LOT more going on that we are not going to hear about because bullying is such a buzzword right now.



posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 12:06 AM
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Originally posted by Amanda5
This thread is about Amanda Todd and I will continue to keep the thread on topic and contribute to respectful comments and discussion.

Amanda Todd - rest still and know that many people are now aware of your pain. Maybe next time around we will actually be there to help you.

Much Peace...


Y do you keep repeating yourself with these freakin eulogy's .... Everyone that disagrees with what she did and does not pity her, gets jumped on by the same people, who act like they are mourning her death...

Is this a memorial thread? If so, sorry for even saying anything... But if its just a regular thread, for opinions, then shutup and accept not everyone is as sensitive to this nonsense as you guys are . I had to say somethin....



posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 12:09 AM
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I was going back through the thread and I seriously think there may be a bot or come major copy/pasting going on here.



posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 12:20 AM
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1. Using child porn as a profile pic will get you arrested.


You have to prove it's child porn first. A web cam boob shot is hardly conclusive
further to this, I already posted a link to an RCMP investigation as we speak.



2. She has "no friends" yet the only reason this video is on youtube is because a friend uploaded it


Straw man.




and she was in cheerleading at school. Cheerleaders are not generally the social outcasts.

Highly subjective



If you watch news reports you can see that she did in fact have friends.


The amount of friends one has is relative.



I think the video was made for her school project or whatever and was for school not some factual story about her life.

Any sentence that begins with "I think" is not factual. None of your sentence is factual. Pure speculation.




I have no doubt that she flashed someone on the net and that she was bullied in school, however the media is trying to spin this like it was all about online bullying, even though the problems at her new school came from her getting with some other girls boyfriend.


Who was the one doing the cheating?



If that situation was reversed and that other girl killed herself because some girl took her boyfriend then Amanda would be the monster.


No, the boyfriend would be.



She was put on anti-depressants and if you read the labels of on them they ALL have suicidal thoughts and tendencies as a side effect. so what is more likely to cause suicide? A drug or the internet?


So if anti-depressants caused her suicide, then what what was your point again? Oh, I think you lost it long ago.



I think it is just way to early to jump on this bandwagon of blaming bullying for this, there was probably a LOT more going on that we are not going to hear about because bullying is such a buzzword right now.


Simple question yes or no. Is bullying ok?



posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 12:39 AM
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You have to prove it's child porn first. A web cam boob shot is hardly conclusive further to this, I already posted a link to an RCMP investigation as we speak.


Okay, to have ANY porn as your profile pic will get you B& from facebook and complaint from her would have resulted in getting V&. The RCMP is looking into to IF that whole facebook thing actually happened and they are also looking into substance abuse. They are not mounting an investigation over a claim that someone used child porn as a profile pic.


This is a devastating tragedy, which impacts the community as a whole. Our deepest sympathies go out to the family and friends of this young person," he said.

Bullying ranks second, behind substance abuse, for youth issues identified as concerns for the RCMP, he added
www.vancouversun.com...






2. She has "no friends" yet the only reason this video is on youtube is because a friend uploaded it

Straw man.

You clearly do not know what a strawman is, I know you probably heard that term used. Maybe you should have looked up what it actually meant instead of trying to find a way to misuse it in a conversation. It is not a strawman, it is a fact. She claims she had no one but the only reason the video is online right now is because a friend of hers posted it-fact. unless she is still alive and posting about herself in the 3rd person www.youtube.com...



and she was in cheerleading at school. Cheerleaders are not generally the social outcasts.


Highly subjective

That is not highly subjective that is a fact that the most popular groups in highschool are the cheerleaders making members of the cheerleaders generally not social outcasts.



The amount of friends one has is relative.

When you say you have no friends when you do is that truth or a lie?



Any sentence that begins with "I think" is not factual. None of your sentence is factual. Pure speculation.

Wow you are amazing... Do you think that I might have added "I think" to that to clarify that it was my opinion? Do you have Asperger's or something? Or are you just trying to be argumentative for no reason?



Simple question yes or no. Is bullying ok?

Define "bullying"



posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 01:00 AM
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Everyone is talking about "Oh you have no empathy for people" and that is just wrong.... This story doesn't deserve my empathy or sympathy imho... This girl put herself into this situation, not only did she put herself there towards the end she had a way out with this video, that was her chance to accept and receive the support she needed....

The fact is I feel sympathy and empathy for people who have no control over their situations... If someone is getting abused or molested by their parents or other sick twisted people and commit suicide, I would be the first one to sit here and say they were just in their decision because those are the type of people who had no way out, there hands were forced, hers were not....



posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 01:14 AM
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Okay, to have ANY porn as your profile pic will get you B& from facebook and complaint from her would have resulted in getting V&. The RCMP is looking into to IF that whole facebook thing actually happened and they are also looking into substance abuse. They are not mounting an investigation over a claim that someone used child porn as a profile pic.


You don't know what the entire investigation entails. Chances are, if they decide to prosecute someone for this, you can guarantee the crown will ask for it.




You clearly do not know what a strawman is, I know you probably heard that term used. Maybe you should have looked up what it actually meant instead of trying to find a way to misuse it in a conversation. It is not a strawman, it is a fact. She claims she had no one but the only reason the video is online right now is because a friend of hers posted it-fact. unless she is still alive and posting about herself in the 3rd person


"She has "no friends" yet the only reason this video is on youtube is because a friend uploaded it "


Person 1 has position X.
Person 2 disregards certain key points of X and instead presents the superficially similar position Y.
The position Y is a distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways,


Your comment shows that it is your intent to prove she has friends - Y
My position is X - you're beating a minor detail to death. Just because someone uploaded it for her does not suddenly mean she has "friends" as you would define as considerable enough. It's a fallacy to assume you can quantify how many friends she has based off just this upload. It's nonsense.




That is not highly subjective that is a fact that the most popular groups in highschool are the cheerleaders making members of the cheerleaders generally not social outcasts.


So what? Even groups have their pecking order.



When you say you have no friends when you do is that truth or a lie?


We're talking about a kid here. I guess you forgot what it was like to be one.




Wow you are amazing... Do you think that I might have added "I think" to that to clarify that it was my opinion? Do you have Asperger's or something? Or are you just trying to be argumentative for no reason?


lol. Rich. What's the matter? Don't get all mad. Keep it civil or they'll shut it down.

ETA: Define bullying? Really?
And I love how you dodged all my points.
edit on 14-10-2012 by FlySolo because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 01:27 AM
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Person 1 has position X.
Person 2 disregards certain key points of X and instead presents the superficially similar position Y.
The position Y is a distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways,

Your comment shows that it is your intent to prove she has friends - Y
My position is X - you're beating a minor detail to death. Just because someone uploaded it for her does not suddenly mean she has "friends" as you would define as considerable enough. It's a fallacy to assume you can quantify how many friends she has based off just this upload. It's nonsense.

Again, you clearly do not know what a strawman is even after attempting to understand it. You look foolish now the way you are trying to twist this to make that square peg fit into that round hole. Im not beating a minor detail to death I brought it up and then you decided to parade your ignorance by misusing a word. She said she had no friends, I showed she did- there is not much more to it than that.

The rest of your post is petty and just trying to be argumentative for no apparent reason.



posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 01:39 AM
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You're over simplifying the fact that "a friend" uploaded it. It means nothing. Just manipulation of words to fit your point. That's the only twisting going on.



posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 01:47 AM
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posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by Superhans
Okay, to have ANY porn as your profile pic will get you B& from facebook and complaint from her would have resulted in getting V&

Alright man, I have absolutely no problem with you, and I've agreed with like 99% of what you've said in this thread. But seriously bro, stop trying to turn ATS into 4chan.



posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 01:55 AM
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