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reply posted on 12-10-2012 @ 03:15 PM by SrWingCommander
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
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We will not let the only true Democratic Republic in the middle east be pushed into the ocean.


Do you consider a country based on apartheid that practices genocide to be a democracy? In a democratic society all citizens are supposed to be treated equal, this is not the case in Israel.

The whole "Israel is the only democracy in the ME" phrase is a total face.

Israel isn't being pushed into the ocean, the Palestinians are.

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Oh here we go again.......

"Aparthide"....that's rich......Just because the Palestinian's allowed their territory to be used as a platform for war in 48 and 67, with the promise from Saudi, Syria and Jordan of "more land" later.....then lost on that gamble and had said lands occupied doesn't make Israel an "aparthied" state.

Clinton and Rabin offered Palestinian Statehood in 99' and Yasser Arafat walked out. When same said territories are used as a camp for THOUSANDS of rocket attacks and are free operating zones for groups like Hamas and Hezbollah to train and plan for Israel's destruction......do you understand why the areas are controlled as they are???

Do I agree with everything the IDF has done or how they do it,,,no, not nessicarily. Do I like that innocent people are put in the middle of this because they live in the area....no......But do i have a problem that same said territories ARE patrolled, controlled, or zoned off by the IDF.....nope, not really.

You can be an Arab (or Muslim) and be an Israeli' citizen....kind of blows the aprathied theory. I know it's a popular opinion....the world was flat once too.

en.wikipedia.org...

According to Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics, the Arab population in 2010 was estimated at 1,573,000, representing 20.4% of the country's population.[4] The majority of these identify themselves as Arab or Palestinian by nationality and Israeli by citizenship.[5][6][7] Many have family ties to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, as well as to Palestinian refugees in Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon. Negev Bedouins tend to identify more as Israelis than other Arab citizens of Israel.Most of the Arabs living in East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, occupied by Israel since the Six-Day War of 1967, were offered Israeli citizenship, but refused, not wanting to recognize Israeli sovereignty. They became permanent residents.[9] They are entitled to municipal services and have municipal voting rights.[10]

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Get that....even those who refused citizenship can claim permanent resident, and vote.

Yes, it's a democratic republic.


On the other topic. I don't think we have a WRITTEN treaty to defend Israel. But we have stated we would "support" them in a conflict since 48. In 73 we put a condition on that we didn't want them to do a preemptive strike if they wanted our help, which is why they got hit hard and almost lost. Who knows what's been agreed on behind closed doors.

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reply posted on 12-10-2012 @ 03:19 PM by Corruption Exposed
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You deny Israel's apartheid while you avoid the topic:

New Senate Push to Pledge Unconditional Support for Israeli Preventive War on Iran



It's about American politicians supporting Israel as if it was the 53rd state LOL.



reply posted on 12-10-2012 @ 03:30 PM by kryton
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Ask a Palestinian if israhell is a democracy.

They are kept inside fenced in ghettos, have different license plates so cops know who to mess with, and have to stick to certain roadways.

What a democracy for all!!


reply posted on 12-10-2012 @ 04:55 PM by SrWingCommander
Originally posted by kryton
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Ask a Palestinian if israhell is a democracy.

They are kept inside fenced in ghettos, have different license plates so cops know who to mess with, and have to stick to certain roadways.

What a democracy for all!!


Sorry,,,,,,epic fail post.......go read my last two posts in this thread again....click the link and do a little reading.....they can thank Yasser for being in their little mess now........

en.wikipedia.org...


Or this:



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I swear it's like everything prior to 2001 on this has been forgotten. Or better yet, not known. I am sure today's younger generation is just shown pictures of "those poor palestinian's being treated bad by big bully israel!".
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reply posted on 12-10-2012 @ 05:20 PM by Antonio1
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
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You deny Israel's apartheid while you avoid the topic:

New Senate Push to Pledge Unconditional Support for Israeli Preventive War on Iran



It's about American politicians supporting Israel as if it was the 53rd state LOL.

How knowledgeable you are......LoL.
53'rd state? Seriously? Learn some geography, there's 50 states, not 52, how would U.S. support of Israel make it the 53'rd. Wouldn't it be 51?


reply posted on 12-10-2012 @ 06:59 PM by Corruption Exposed
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|t's an ongoing joke Mr. Smarty pants....Guam and Puerto Rico are the other two iSRAEL IS the third.


reply posted on 12-10-2012 @ 08:28 PM by buster2010
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Correction – He is a neocon…..not a right wing extremist. Remember, this is the buffoon who is for amnesty for the 12 million illegal’s. That certainly isn’t a right wing position, is it?


Do you consider Reagan to be a neo con? Remember he gave amnesty to the illegals also. And the way the GOP acts he is the poster child for the right wing.


reply posted on 12-10-2012 @ 08:39 PM by buster2010
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I swear it's like everything prior to 2001 on this has been forgotten. Or better yet, not known. I am sure today's younger generation is just shown pictures of "those poor palestinian's being treated bad by big bully israel!".


Unlike you I'm sure quite a few of them have researched Israels past that is why the old poor innocent Israel lie isn't working anymore.



reply posted on 12-10-2012 @ 09:39 PM by xxdaniel21
Originally posted by jonnywhite

Why would we not do this? It's like you have a friend and your friend is being threatened by a bully and you ask your other friend "Hey, if our friend gets into a fight with the bully, lets pledge to help him, so he's not alone.



Except that is a terrible analogy, as israel is hardly the "victim party" in this case. If you wanna really throw the bully scenario out there, iran saw israel on the playground equipment, and wanted to join in, but israel wasn't happy and cried to the teacher, so he can have it all to himself because the teacher has ultimate power.

If anything, israel is making a victim of itself, and fabricating a false "bully". That's like me walking up to a person on the street and clocking him in the face because he looked at me funny, and then running into the arms of a police officer.

See how stupid this sounds? In fact, i guess you're right - the bully situation is a perfect analogy - just not in the same point of view you referred to it in I don't usually laugh at people's views, but come on man - you see what israel is like. Iran may have the force of religion behind it's goals (which we ASSUME is the case in it's nuclear goals - we don't actually "KNOW" anything), but if one kid can play with the ball, why can't the other kid?
Come on, a lot of people here would agree with a "class-less" society and dislike one having more power over another, why not translate it into the middle eastern context? Why let israel have ultimate power at the drop of a hat should they feel like annihilating a nation for whatever reason?

Power corrupts, and israel/US is a perfect testimony.
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reply posted on 13-10-2012 @ 02:35 AM by DestroyDestroyDestroy
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Rofl, Israel's idiotic situation aside, we don't have the means to fight another war, nor do we have the public support. A majority of Americans are fed up with these BS wars, though perhaps not enough judging from the blind pro-Israeli support on these forums. If Israel wants to go to war, let them go to war. Our economy can't brace another war, neither can our sons and daughters. Iran isn't a threat to America, and if Israel wasn't such an unruly neighbor and actually had a government that sought peace with her allies, she wouldn't need to fear attacks from bordering countries.

"HuRrRRr DurRRrRrr DurrRrRrR Let's go send our boys to die so Israel's douchebag leaders can feel reassured that we've got their back hurr durr durr." Yeah, no thanks. Israel's actions put her in a situation where she has become despised by her neighbors, so let her take responsibility.
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