Originally posted by tovenar
Everybody pays taxes to help with the infrastructure of our nation, to help care for the people who can't care for themself,
Um., the press has been playing a tape of Romney saying that 47% don't pay any net federal tax. No one has challenged that number. So, it sounds
like not "everyone pays." Personally, I don't mind paying for folks who CAN'T help themselves; it's the folks who don't bother to help
themselves that drive me nuts.
Plenty of people have disputed it. lol
Romney was playing to the ignorant masses who only hear the tax part and assume that he meant taxes, period. He was strictly referring to income tax.
The 47% who don't pay income tax, still pay: payroll tax, property tax, ss, medicare,state taxes, local taxes, property taxes, etc. Think about it,
if half the nation didn't pay taxes, we wouldn't have schools, roads, police departments, health inspectors, hospitals, etc.
Even the poorest 5% in this country, still paid 16% of their income into taxes.
What is even more moronic about his statement is that he was offending his own constituents. The states with the highest number of people who don't
pay income tax are red states, they also receive the most welfare.
Part of the problem with US healthcare is that it ISN'T a free market system. Doctors can charger different customers different amounts,
something that is inherently unfair and illegal in many industries. I got charged "full price" because I had insurance and had an income. The docs
would have charged less if I had no insurance, in order to the Fed, with tax dollars to pay the bill.
That is one component, but not all of it. The other is that Americans pay more for medications. Why do you think it is cheaper in Canada? Because
pharmaceuticals know that Americans can afford to subsidize their research for these medications. So Americans foot the bill for the research costs,
when other countries don't.
Another component is the insistence to use the latest and greatest technology, and to test for things that are not needed. It is not always necessary
to have the latest and greatest.
For example, I took my son to the ER once for a high fever from a raging ear infection. They wanted to run a cat scan on his lungs, "just in case".
The ultimate, non-political problem is that trying to work for a living is risky. You can get fired, or get sick, or have your business
Yes, it is risky. As for getting fired, that depends if you live in a right to work state or not.
But going on welfare is guaranteed. There is less and less reason to try and find work, and keep it, when "someone else's money" is
guaranteed for as long as you want to live in bad housing and put up with a gritty lifestyle---but that's ok for people who just want to do drugs all
Bullcocky.No one lives a great life on welfare. There is also a five year, lifetime limit on cash assistance. Many people do work and still don't
earn enough to not need food stamps.
The other problem people face is the cost of childcare. In my area, daycare is a whopping 350$ a week for one child.That alone is over $18,000 a year.
So you can make $40,000 a year, and still barely bring home enough to get by.
So how is someone with limited education supposed to make $40,000 a year? Rent is $1200 for a one bedroom apartment. So for just one apartment and
one child in daycare is $32,000.
Basically, our system punishes people who try, and provides a "safety net" for the ones who give up---all in the name of providing for those
who say they cannot provide for themselves.
Bullcocky part deux. If it was so easy, 150 million Americans would note be working.
First off, you have to have children to receive cash assitance. And you only have a five year limit on that. You only receive medicaid if you are a
pregnant, and have kids, or disabled.
Many people who receive food stamps are working, they are the working poor.
Welfare is a safety net. It is for urgent need. You can't just quit and get on welfare. You have to have very limited income, next to no money in the
bank, no assests. Any income that you receive, even if it is 20 bucks from a friend,should be reported, and is added to your income for the month.
So no, it is not a cozy living as you like to think it is.