The first part of this is reworked from another thread.
Originally posted by ipsedixit
I think that NATO has decided to provoke a major war between Turkey and Syria, with the help of Turkey who must have been promised something big in
exchange. Do they want anything big? Yes they do. You know they do. This is not rocket science.
An attack by Israel on Iran would be a confusing sideshow that might get in the way. Iran is definitely going to run into a lot of trouble in the not
too distant future. Personally, I believe they would have, even if the nuclear issue were not at all an issue. Even, in fact, if they had no nuclear
installations of any kind on their soil and had to send their citizens to Georgia for catscans.
Meanwhile, Sideshow Bob will have to wait a little while longer to see action.
The fact of the matter is that the Americans intend to control all of the oil resources in the Middle East and Caspian Basin. Israel's security,
Iran's potential nukes, the Arab Spring are all just pretexts for action to that end. They all have the utility of built in "proxies" through which to
Things are going great for America's plans. Soon Assad will be gone and Syria will assume "basket case" status just like Libya and Egypt. The Islamic
world's worst characteristic, the inability to live and let live, will once again be used against it, to reduce it to a geopolitically impotent oil
In the near future it will be the fate of Iran to have a chunk of territory cut out of it by the Americans, using the Kurds as proxies, in order to
topple the Mullahs and reduce Iranian influence in the region.
Nobody likes Iran. (Personally, I like Iranians, but that's just me. I like everybody, even Americans. I'm a late 21st century, post WW3 type
personality, who has had it with warfare.) But the point is that Russia and China, who are the real important entities being squeezed by the US in all
this, are not friends of Iran. People looking for poetic justice on the Americans and expecting Russia to supply it are bound to be disappointed.
Nobody likes a mouthy Mullah.
Having said that, Russia and China face a delicate decision with respect to current developments in the Middle East. They both have smarter people
than me looking at the political trends. They can see where this is going. The question is whether it is in their, and the world's interest to allow
the Americans to do what they want to do. Can they live with the results? That's the dilemma.
George W. Bush said that history would be kind to him. He might have been right, despite 9/11. Maybe it is in my personal interest
Americans to achieve hegemony and de facto
control in the Middle East and the Caspian. Maybe a lot of future blackmail and tough times and
material hardship in North America and Europe will have been avoided, by using the methods we have seen so far, advancing American interests, those
methods being murder and murder and more murder.
It is a tough thing to decide, but the decision is already made. We will never know what would have happened if America had decided to use the "peace
dividend" that followed the collapse of the Soviet Union in another, more benevolent way. We will never know what would have happened had an era of
cooperation been inaugurated, an era of honest declaration of resource problems. An era without the naked larceny of the oligarchs and the would be
oligarchs world wide.
Human nature has given us the world we currently inhabit and the threat of WW3.
Looking at this from the Russian and the Chinese perspective, does it not make some sense to attempt to halt American expansion, even though neither
country, particularly Russia is in immediate danger from it?
Aren't Russia and China facing the American equivalent of the Iranian Mullahs, a crazy group determined to bring abouit a "New World Order" with
themselves in charge and everyone else reduced to supporting roles?
From the perspective of Russia and China, do they not seem to be between a rock and a hard place? On the one had they have the crazy Mullahs and their
worldview and on the other hand they have the crazy oligarchs and their
worldview. What to do?
Would it not make some sense to send nuclear tipped warheads to Iran immediately, to put a halt to American expansion at Syria? Would it be crazy to
do so, given the seeming inability of Islamic cultures to control their emotions and impulses? It's a very tough question. American brinkmanship is
forcing this sort of question on them. They have to be considering it. They have heard of Zbigniev Berzhinski. They have read The Grand
. They know that they are next.
What do they have to lose? I wish the esteemed American Secretary of State were on ATS. I wish she could adress this question.
Should Russia sends nukes to Iran?
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